[Fumes]

saw on RL

BMW M4 vs Porsche 911 Carrera | evo TRACK BATTLE - YouTube

BMW M4 vs Porsche 911 Carrera | evo TRACK BATTLE - YouTube

[N0tt0N]

So much less steering input on the 911.

He would love the 911 even more if the throttle wasn't being managed for him.

Beautiful track! Let's do a DE there!

[BMAN]

FTS needs to watch this!!!

[APKhaos]

Ironic that the M4 is more likely to oversteer than the 911, and yet still has corner entry understeer issues. PCNA should be giving this video to every punter who walks into the showroom.

[FTS]

Originally Posted by BMAN

FTS needs to watch this!!!

Already did

The M4 is so far from the Porsche performance, it is not even debatable. The weight distribution is screwed up (52% front) and CG is too high compared to Cayman or 911. But this won't deter me from getting one The price difference is not even funny; fully loaded M4 is about $10K cheaper than reasonable optioned Cayman GTS and $15K less than similarly optioned 911 C2, I am OK being couple of seconds off at the track, I'll just get some 11" wheels and 305 tires for the rear of the M4

Order in place, hopefully should be here in November.

[Fumes]

Originally Posted by APKhaos

Ironic that the M4 is more likely to oversteer than the 911, and yet still has corner entry understeer issues. PCNA should be giving this video to every punter who walks into the showroom.

totally agree.

and it's not just that the M4 is a 3 series with some great improvements and the 911 is a sports car...as a few who have driven my 991c2 with 7MT on the track have told me, it's a more than capable platform for track use even w/out PDK.

the longer wheelbase and wider front track are clearly a big step on for the platform on the track. it's hilarious to me that other forums dismiss 991s save Sw/powerkit and PDK or GT3 for the track, when the simpler/lighter/manual c2 is clearly the way to go for the new generation

though I am clearly biased.

[blipshift]

Originally Posted by FTS

Already did

The M4 is so far from the Porsche performance, it is not even debatable. The weight distribution is screwed up (52% front) and CG is too high compared to Cayman or 911. But this won't deter me from getting one The price difference is not even funny; fully loaded M4 is about $10K cheaper than reasonable optioned Cayman GTS and $15K less than similarly optioned 911 C2, I am OK being couple of seconds off at the track, I'll just get some 11" wheels and 305 tires for the rear of the M4

Order in place, hopefully should be here in November.

A friend of mine just got his new M3 (needed the extra doors for his little ones) in this week. He also has a 997 which he tracks. I asked what he thought and he said "the 911 is more race car masquerading to be a street car and the BMW is more street car masquerading to be a track car."

[BMAN]

Originally Posted by threedownandlocked

"the 911 is more race car masquerading to be a street car and the BMW is more street car masquerading to be a track car."

FTS is masquerading as someone who doesn't give a sheet about being a couple of seconds slower a lap.

[captdownshift]

Originally Posted by FTS

fully loaded M4 is about $10K cheaper than reasonable optioned Cayman GTS and $15K less than similarly optioned 911 .

Now about that resale value when the time to sell comes...

[blipshift]

Originally Posted by BMAN

FTS is masquerading as someone who doesn't give a sheet about being a couple of seconds slower a lap.

Who cares about a few seconds when you've got enough torque to make days shorter.