[Feliks]

In other forum

Originally Posted by Henning

Oh yes, a little bit of you have, then a little knowledge and work reliably over the idea and new invention ready.....

Here you can see perfectly that we can get plenty of potential energy generated by the aerodynamics, without any propellers....
It allows a range of up to 3000 km by glider...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gliding


Andrew:stir:

The main energies supplied to a glider is gravity and convection(solar) energy. Even a glider has to be able to change it's vector to operate at a gain. At the end of the day, a glider has produced very little work. If you were to try to power the world on the work performed levels of a glider, it would be a herculean task.[/QUOTE]


You know perfectly well, with new ideas about the rank of the fundamental, very difficult to penetrate to the use of mass...

But thanks to people like you, we can slowly try to..
Another, although not looking as Hekules, we have on video..

‪Redbaron2‬‏ - YouTube

‪Redbaron2‬‏ - YouTube

Instead, we can build an automatic flow of balls so that they can be sucked into the pipe.
A falling ball (or WATER) with wings, they can hit their way back after a shoulder wheel, similar to a water wheel, giving him his potential energy ..

Well, the automatic circuit, will cause the "Hercules" he can rest.
This is just an example of how we can use another way of generating energy this way.

Regards Andrew

[Feliks]

Instead, we can build an automatic flow of balls so that they can be sucked into the pipe.
A falling ball (or WATER) with wings, they can hit their way back after a shoulder wheel, similar to a water wheel, giving him his potential energy ..

Well, the automatic circuit, will cause the "Hercules" he can rest.
This is just an example of how we can use another way of generating energy this way.

"The Water Wind Power Plant"



Love for "tuning" not gone...





Andrew

[Vicegrip]

Originally Posted by Feliks

In other forum :
[quote name='gruntguru' date='Jul 6 2011, 08:37' post='5147823']
Those wings need endplates.

Seriously - using the flow in a secondary device means that a lot of the wind power is wasted, because the mass flow through the turbines is much less than the wind mass flow captured by the machine.

I have seen some interesting and original ideas in this thread, but you are wasting YOUR energy trying to improve on the efficiency of a modern wind turbine.

All of this, I waste my energy ,you able to understand that there are other, much more efficient ways of using wind energy.

I know your great love for modern wind turbine, but you must remember that any excessive love sent your eyes, and impossible for an objective view of reality.

Besides, is not just about the same efficiency, but also for it to be able to build a very simple structure that even the next 4,000 years will exist. I makes sense to build on the sea, because they almost always wind blows from one direction - from the sea. And so it will probably still over the next 4000 years...
* In such a structure may be, for example, 100 such horizontal " flat venturi " and long for 300 meters. Constructed channels will lead to negative pressure turbines which generate much electricity. And the only element consuming to be turbine generators. The rest should survive 4000 years without repairs...

So with these issues will be decisive, not only we can improve the efficiency of Venturi amplifier.

Well unless the people have lost the ability to build such structures ...



And here in a better resolution though you wanted to see more details:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...h_Pyramids.jpg

But who will be Pharaoh??

Regards Andrew [/QUOTE]Please show us how you plan to build a stacked hollow wing structure that will last through a strong T storm, or hurricane. Storms and high winds tend to happen more often than every 4000 years.

The wing structure introduced both flow loss and lack of directional tuning. Both will reduce eff not to mention increase the cost per watt to build. good thing it has a 4000 year lifespan that might be the ROI.

[Feliks]

Originally Posted by Vicegrip

Please show us how you plan to build a stacked hollow wing structure that will last through a strong T storm, or hurricane. Storms and high winds tend to happen more often than every 4000 years.

The wing structure introduced both flow loss and lack of directional tuning. Both will reduce eff not to mention increase the cost per watt to build. good thing it has a 4000 year lifespan that might be the ROI.

Well, but I'll probably have to run for the Pharaoh to re- teach people to build big buildings with stone...

Of course, the pyramids have survived all these cataclysms over the 4000 years, what is undeniable..

And of course, is meaning a size of this building.

The only change in technology, we need to know is that the block of stone has to be on the one hand a little round...
In this way, these blocks can be " arranged " these wings, in addition, in the middle can have the same corridors as the pyramids, so that they will only be used for air flow and communication within the "wings". Well but the thickness of this wing should be, well, let's say about 20 meters.....
Well it need build it in such a place, where the winds blow from one direction, say in 90 % of the time. Really the world is a couple of places...

So for 4000 years, only few will change the geometry of the building. now must resemble the profile of NACA...





Only now I begin to worry, whence so many slaves to take to build this...

Regards Andrew

[Vicegrip]

Originally Posted by Feliks

Well, but I'll probably have to run for the Pharaoh to re- teach people to build big buildings with stone...

Of course, the pyramids have survived all these cataclysms over the 4000 years, what is undeniable..

And of course, is meaning a size of this building.

The only change in technology, we need to know is that the block of stone has to be on the one hand a little round...
In this way, these blocks can be " arranged " these wings, in addition, in the middle can have the same corridors as the pyramids, so that they will only be used for air flow and communication within the "wings". Well but the thickness of this wing should be, well, let's say about 20 meters.....
Well it need build it in such a place, where the winds blow from one direction, say in 90 % of the time. Really the world is a couple of places...

So for 4000 years, only few will change the geometry of the building. now must resemble the profile of NACA...





Only now I begin to worry, whence so many slaves to take to build this...

Regards Andrew

I hope you understand the pyaramids of Gaza are little more than stacks of rocks and used to be finished to a far higher level than present. THwy are also in an area where the weather is stable. Thinking that you can build an airfoil of the size you presented and have it last 4000 years is laughable. Thanks!

[Feliks]

http://www.1-famous-quotes.com/quote/1378398


Andrew

[Vicegrip]

Great quote I use the english version from time to time. Too bad he was wrong, even then.

[Feliks]

Originally Posted by Vicegrip

Great quote I use the english version from time to time. Too bad he was wrong, even then.

I actually wasted 2 min typing that text in google translator and came up with this:

"scientists believe the surface of his wings is too small in relation to its weight and in accordance with the laws of physics can not fly ... But the bumblebee does not know ..."

Regards,

K.Lagan


Andrew

[Vicegrip]

Correct if you calulate based on single lift pulse per wing cycle. Bees get 2 lifts per wing cycle. People used to think the earth was flat and at the the center too.

Please to let us know how to make complex structures that are both strong enough to self suport and to resist 4000 years of storms? We simple people can see how a simple shape pile of rocks could last in an area that does not see sub 0C temps. Now all you need to do is figure out how to make electricity from a pile of rocks.

[Feliks]

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[quote name='24gerrard' post='5179612' date='Jul 21 2011, 06:05']There is also the 'scale' effect, which I had endless trouble with years ago building scale model aircraft that looked accurate and also flew well.[/quote]

Oh yes , you right .

So it will act differently venturi nozzle in the plane ,of size 2 "and completely different, as will its Input diameter 100 m and 500 m length. Practically, it may be that the aerodynamic drag will be negligible...

Andrew