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Old 01-20-2014, 01:17 AM
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I plan to be proactive and install TimeSerts in the aluminum caliper mounts before a problem occurs. Does anyone have a TimeSert M12 x 1.5 Kit and tap/socket that I can borrow? I hope to do the install in the next couple of weeks.

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I have the kit. I also made a short bit so the drill clears the fender when working on car and a crude jig to help line things up. You must drill and tap it in line or you will be unhappy with the results. It can be done just fine but is not dead drop easy to do this on the car.

Just an opinion. I might be inclined to be carefull with the existing setup.
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I have the kit. I also made a short bit so the drill clears the fender when working on car and a crude jig to help line things up. You must drill and tap it in line or you will be unhappy with the results. It can be done just fine but is not dead drop easy to do this on the car.

Just an opinion. I might be inclined to be carefull with the existing setup.
Thanks, Kurt. I'll give you a call.
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... Just an opinion. I might be inclined to be carefull with the existing setup.
X2, one way is after carefully lining up the caliper simply turn the caliper bolt 1/4 - 1/2 turn to the left before righty/tighty. It really helps to lineup the threads
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As an alternative, you can do the cup car PMNA caliper stud and nuts. Works well and they are an easy install.
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As an alternative, you can do the cup car PMNA caliper stud and nuts. Works well and they are an easy install.
This. The word cup alone makes you go faster too.

Real dumb to have a steel bolt in an aluminum knuckle that is subjected to heat and road slosh.
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Real dumb to have a steel bolt in an aluminum knuckle that is subjected to heat and road slosh.
Won't all the layers of wax Eric puts on help prevent this issue
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As an alternative, you can do the cup car PMNA caliper stud and nuts. Works well and they are an easy install.
Already on order; however, I still prefer a steel to steel interface, therefore the TimeSerts and PMNA studs. I don't like problems, especially expensive ones that several others have already experienced.

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Real dumb to have a steel bolt in an aluminum knuckle that is subjected to heat and road slosh.
And frequent removal. Indeed; would be nice it they came with TimeSerts, or German equivalent, from the factory.

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Won't all the layers of wax Eric puts on help prevent this issue
Ha! And true...though while it will never get wet from being driven in the elements, there is still the high heat factor. I would need to find special hi-temp wax for that,
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Already on order; however, I still prefer a steel to steel interface, therefore the TimeSerts and PMNA studs. I don't like problems, especially expensive ones that several others have already experienced.
Once you put the studs in, they are in. They come withe red locktite already on them. The nuts are far easier to remove and not prone to issues. Going without something can lead to issues if you are not careful. I would skip the timeserts, since that's not how the engineers put things together. You're doing the 5 lug conversion also? Just have the shop do everything when they are taking it all apart for the conversion.
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Once you put the studs in, they are in. They come withe red locktite already on them. The nuts are far easier to remove and not prone to issues. Going without something can lead to issues if you are not careful. I would skip the timeserts, since that's not how the engineers put things together. You're doing the 5 lug conversion also? Just have the shop do everything when they are taking it all apart for the conversion.
Well, it certainly would be easier and quicker to not TimeSert them. While I would prefer steel to steel, the primary issue does revolve around the frequent removal and installation of the steel bolts in the wheel carriers.

Yes, I'll be doing the 5-lug conversion also; I've talked with the shop foreman, and then I answered myself. My plan is to use the SIR Tools bearing tool so that I don't need to remove the uprights, which if successful would greatly reduce the amount of time, effort and realignment necessary.
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