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}{arlequin
08-03-2006, 12:42 PM
how do i do that on my car? are there retaining clips/pins, or just screws that have to be reached from the inside?
if screws, once UN-screwed, does the handle just come off or is there another hidden procedure for freeing them from the body?
thank you.
flatsixcrazy
08-03-2006, 12:59 PM
Hi Dave,
Yes, just the two nuts. If you have power locks then just undo the wire. Andy
}{arlequin
08-03-2006, 01:02 PM
thanks
flatsixcrazy
08-03-2006, 01:11 PM
Oh My bad Dave,
I assumed you were talking about the outer door handles?. If inner door handles, I believe there are four bolts and two screws. Four allen bolts that holds the inner door handles to the door, one screw that holds the door panel to the door handle, and one screw that holds the door pocket to the handle. Andy
Parenn911
08-03-2006, 01:14 PM
Hi Dave,
Yes, just the two nuts. If you have power locks then just undo the wire. Andy
What Andy said. First remove the door panel. Then grab a flashlight and shine it into the cutout section of the door, you should see two nuts that need to be loosened, after those are off, you can pull the handle right out from the door.
}{arlequin
08-03-2006, 01:18 PM
thanks guys. yes andy, i meant the outer...
another Q: if i'm going to have the locks re-keyed, do i need to remove the cylinders or can i just give them in one piece to the locksmith? ie: will i screw things up if i remove the locks myself?
Parenn911
08-03-2006, 01:24 PM
thanks guys. yes andy, i meant the outer...
another Q: if i'm going to have the locks re-keyed, do i need to remove the cylinders or can i just give them in one piece to the locksmith? ie: will i screw things up if i remove the locks myself?
You can remove the cylinders yourself, its not time consuming. It depends on whether you trust this locksmith has the knowledge to remove the cylinders. Is it a German locksmith ;) :lol: .
Vicegrip
08-03-2006, 01:35 PM
Take the entire handle to the locksmith. They are well smart enough to remove replace the cyl from the handle and will thank you for doing so as they can test the pin work.
}{arlequin
08-03-2006, 01:40 PM
thanks kurt... just from reading up on this i figured i'm going to have tons of little springs and pins shooting out from the thing...
since i'm farming this out, "it's easy enough" :lol: . ..... now, about those pesky window regulators... :?
that sure looks like a crap task... need some infant w/ small hands to reach in there..
BlackTalon
08-03-2006, 01:46 PM
that sure looks like a crap task... need some infant w/ small hands to reach in there..Get in touch with the Cayman owner from last weekend. Chances are he has some even younger girls stashed around somewhere! :-)
Parenn911
08-03-2006, 01:47 PM
since i'm farming this out, "it's easy enough" :lol: . ..... now, about those pesky window regulators... :?
that sure looks like a crap task... need some infant w/ small hands to reach in there..
why not switch up to electrical. The extra weight is minimal, and then you can actually roll your window down while you're driving. :lol:
}{,
I swapped cylinders between a couple of sets of door handles myself last week. Not something you need to take to a locksmith unless you have binding problems. Just take a key (I think any Porsche of the correct era will work, don't need THE key), insert in lock. Next remove the 1 screw that attaches the door release lever to the end of the cylinder. There is a small spring that sits between this lever and the cylinder. Note how is mounted, then remove the lever. Don't let the spring go flying.... Slide the cylinder out, slide it into the new handle, reattach spring, lever and screw, and you are done. I found that with care, I could remove the lever with the spring still sitting inside of it, which simplifies reassembly. Note that with the key in the cylinder, the little brass tumblers CANNOT fall out of the cylinder. They are brass rectangles with a rectangular hole in the middle. The key slides throught the inner hole and pushes them against the spring tension. The offset of the hole on the brass tumbler matches the key such that they are all flush with the outside of the cylinder when the proper key is used, and the key is then able to turn.
This was simple enough that I was able to do some amatuer locksmithing myself by pulling some tumblers out of the spare cylinders to replace some of mine that had worn and were starting to bind the mechanism. Course, this is where you do risk flying springs :lol:
I would post pictures, but am at work.
If you do one at a time, you can use the other one as a pattern, remembering they are mirror images.
v/r
Brent
Vicegrip
08-03-2006, 03:43 PM
}{ are you swapping cyls or rekeying the ones you have? If just swaping you might be able to do it your self using Brett's listed procedure. I was thinking you were getting them re pined. The down side is if you mess up you will have to get them pinned up by a locksmith. I have a good one I use if you need to get them pinned up. If all the little parts fly out, find them!
I have a set off the 77 around as well
}{arlequin
08-03-2006, 04:08 PM
thanks guys. brent that info will be very useful in the future. i am replacing the doorhandles together w/ cylinders so both will need to be re-keyed. i'm not swapping cylinders out of old into the new b/c the old passenger one was never keyed to my key in the first place. had to use two keys to let a date in and then myself :roll:
seems like it would be easiest to just hand the handles w/ their own cylinders (and a key) to the locksmith and he can make sure i get them back all matched up. this will keep my car from being parked unlocked and doorhandleless.
stacy
03-20-2007, 05:13 PM
Just yesterday I noticed that I have lost tension in the driver side door locking mechanism. By that I mean that when I insert the key and turn, it will unlock and lock, depending on which way I turn it, but there is no pressure returning the key to the insert position.
Instead, the key will turn freely inside the cylinder, all the while locking or unlocking, depending on which point on the clockface the key is aligned. Also, the cylinder will slide out if I don't carefully remove the key. My take is that a spring has either slipped off, or broken off. I plan on taking off the door panel this weekend to look around.
stacy,
Sounds like the screw the holds the cylinder in the door handle has fallen out or broken, which would both release the spring and allow the cylinder to come out of the door handle. Just a broken spring shouldn't allow the cylinder to come out. Of course, my experience is with older cars, but think the handles are the same.
v/r
Yoda
Andy Clements
03-20-2007, 07:19 PM
how do i do that on my car?
http://images.oldhouseweb.com/stories/bitmaps/13034/sawzall1.jpg
:lol:
Rob in VA
03-20-2007, 08:07 PM
Get in touch with the Cayman owner from last weekend. Chances are he has some even younger girls stashed around somewhere! :-)
Did Justin have his harem with him again?
Jazzbass
03-20-2007, 09:35 PM
http://images.oldhouseweb.com/stories/bitmaps/13034/sawzall1.jpg
:lol:
That's only for 944s.
markwemple
03-20-2007, 09:57 PM
Be careful with the nuts. They can rust and will snap off with ease. I'd soak the crap out of them before removing.
stacy
03-21-2007, 09:37 AM
stacy,
Sounds like the screw the holds the cylinder in the door handle has fallen out or broken, which would both release the spring and allow the cylinder to come out of the door handle. Just a broken spring shouldn't allow the cylinder to come out. Of course, my experience is with older cars, but think the handles are the same.
v/r
Yoda
Makes sense, there's definitely something rattling around inside the door. I'll have to investigate this weekend.
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