[Parenn911]

Originally Posted by Mackpipes

While I realize this a tech question, my gas pedal is too low for good "heel toeing". Which do I adjust, the gas or brake pedal?

With all this talk of heel/ toe, left foot braking, I was looking at my pedals and I realize I have the same problem as Ted does. Anyone who has driven my SC has found it almost impossible to heel/toe effectively with the way my pedals are currently set up. As Ted asked, should they be adjusted? I also noticed that my clutch is closer to the floorboard after tightening the bolt attached to clutch cable underneath the car. Could it be the clutch cable that needs to be replaced? After driving Chris's Carrera, I go the feel of where the pedals should be.

From this picture it is apparent that the clutch and gas pedal are much closer to the floor board than the brake pedal .

[VaSteve]

Originally Posted by Parenn911

With all this talk of heel/ toe, left foot braking, I was looking at my pedals and I realize I have the same problem as Ted does. Anyone who has driven my SC has found it almost impossible to heel/toe effectively with the way my pedals are currently set up. As Ted asked, should they be adjusted? I also noticed that my clutch is closer to the floorboard after tightening the bolt attached to clutch cable underneath the car. Could it be the clutch cable that needs to be replaced? After driving Chris's Carrera, I go the feel of where the pedals should be.

From this picture it is apparent that the clutch and gas pedal are much closer to the floor board than the brake pedal .

We were talking a bout this at the HPDC. If you're really stepping on the brakes, the pedal should be low enough to hit the gas with your heel. Of course, I didn't try it, I don't know what the hell my feet were doing!

For the street you can attach a block of wood :P

[VaSteve]

I had such a good idea, that apparently Don had it too in the Track forum:

Get a piece of wood, 1 X 4, about 4 in long and screw it to the gas pedal. Will raise the height of the gas pedal about 1 in and make the pedal wider. Just make sure the brake pedal doesn't touch the piece of wood. That should work just fine until your custom carbon fiber accelerator wing arrives.

[Marc A]

You can adjust the gas pedal by pulling it off the ball and turning the rod in the disired direction.

Brake pedal is more difficult and you have to make sure when you shorten the rod length that you are not placing and pressure on the master cylinder. May not be obvious, but even a slight amout of pressure on the MC will keep the pads engaged on the rotors.

[Parenn911]

Thanks for the replies Marc and Steve . I think Marc's method of adjusting the gas pedal is what I was looking for . I know exactly where to adjust it, thanks Marc.
Any input on how to adjust the clutch pedal? Could it be that my clutch itself needs adjustment?

[William Miller]

Pari, come by and look at mine while it's up on the stands.
Barrow my book and do the adjustment. It looks like it's possible that it's out of adjustment, the helper spring is hung up or one of the springs near the pedal cluster is missing or weak.

I found that my helper spring was hitting the seam on the SSI heat exchanger and it wouldn't allow the helper spring/arm to return all the way. This would of course throw the adjustment off. When you push on my pedal there is very light resistance for about an inch. This effect is because of the 1mm gap (Supposed to be there and part of the adjustment) between the little arm that turns the shaft and th big arm that the cable pulls. I think the gap on yours may be too big and there is a problem with one of the springs.


I'm glad you posted. One of the questions I'm sure everyone wanted to ask, but didn't. I think I'll look at my gas pedal as well. Unfortunately the bottom hinge point does not adjust very far if any. I think that's where the wood block may come in handy.

I have some aluminum stock I got from a freind who's in the scrap metal business. It's about 1/4" thick and has a texture on one side. It's about the size of a stair tread so that's where I think it came from.
If anyone want's a hunk let me know, make yourself a pedal with a wing!

[BW911]

Pari, Order yourself one of the Wings accelerator pedals. It not only has an extended piece for heel and toeing, it goes on top of the accel. pedal and can be adjusted up, down and sideways. I had the same problem as you heel and toeing until I installed one, and it made things a lot easier. You can take a look at mine and give it a try if you like.

The guy who makes it advertises, or did, in Pano and Excellence.

Bill

[BobNovas]

You can also take those big rubber things off the clutch and brake pedals, and just go with the metal pedal. That will put the brake closer to the gas.

[Parenn911]

Originally Posted by William Miller

It looks like it's possible that it's out of adjustment, the helper spring is hung up or one of the springs near the pedal cluster is missing or weak.
I found that my helper spring was hitting the seam on the SSI heat exchanger and it wouldn't allow the helper spring/arm to return all the way. This would of course throw the adjustment off. When you push on my pedal there is very light resistance for about an inch. This effect is because of the 1mm gap (Supposed to be there and part of the adjustment) between the little arm that turns the shaft and th big arm that the cable pulls. I think the gap on yours may be too big and there is a problem with one of the springs.

William, thank you for posting this . The problem I am having with my clutch pedal is exactly as you described above. I can hear my helper spring hit my HE's. So now I know that my helper spring needs adjustment .

Originally Posted by BW911

Order yourself one of the Wings accelerator pedals. It not only has an extended piece for heel and toeing, it goes on top of the accel. pedal and can be adjusted up, down and sideways

Bill, do you know the company's name or the guy's name that makes the "wing"?

Originally Posted by BobNovas

You can also take those big rubber things off the clutch and brake pedals, and just go with the metal pedal

Bob, thanks for the tip on the rubber pads and the pics. I never knew the pedals looked so good without them, also some weight will be lost by removing the rubber .

[Lucky]

Pari, and others... keep in mind that even with just a small amount of water on the bottom of your shoes, the metal pedals will be extremely slippery. If your shoes are damp, make sure you contact the whole pedal. Just using the edge of the pedal will probably result in your foot slipping off.

As far as pedal kits that help heel-toe... the one several of us use is from rennline. It looks like this...



And can be purchased at rennline's web site.

Rennline now also has a fully adjustable kit for about 2X in $$$. Looks nice but probably not worth it for the non-racer.