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Old 10-07-2015, 12:50 PM
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I need new tires for the DE at the end of the month, so I figured I'd take the opportunity to have my wheels powdercoated teal as a replacement to the plastidip that's on there currently.

Not looking for awesome quality but would appreciate durability. Thanks in advance.
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American Stripping in Mananas http://www.ascoweb.com/ has come with good recommendations. BUT.... Please be careful about powder coating wheels. Overheating wheels can make them weak depending on the alloys used. Weak as in the rims break out of the centers in the Chute. Seen it.
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Anyone ever though of using cerakote? (the high temp - no bake version. Though the bake version is only 120C which is almost half of most powdercoats) Tough as nails, VERY thin, and prob uses an ounce to do all 4 wheels. I recently applied it for the first time and its insane how far a little goes.
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American Stripping in Mananas http://www.ascoweb.com/ has come with good recommendations. BUT.... Please be careful about powder coating wheels. Overheating wheels can make them weak depending on the alloys used. Weak as in the rims break out of the centers in the Chute. Seen it.
Jesus, how hot are they heating those suckers? 200F should not cause a rim to fail......

But noted, thanks for the recommendation.

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Anyone ever though of using cerakote? (the high temp - no bake version. Though the bake version is only 120C which is almost half of most powdercoats) Tough as nails, VERY thin, and prob uses an ounce to do all 4 wheels. I recently applied it for the first time and its insane how far a little goes.

Are you referring to the firearms coatings? Oven curable....huh.......what an awesome idea. I'm totally game to try this out. Must research further.

A cursory inspection reveals they may not have teal, unfortunately. Hmmm.
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Robin's egg blue might do the trick...

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Jesus, how hot are they heating those suckers? 200F should not cause a rim to fail......

But noted, thanks for the recommendation.




Are you referring to the firearms coatings? Oven curable....huh.......what an awesome idea. I'm totally game to try this out. Must research further.

A cursory inspection reveals they may not have teal, unfortunately. Hmmm.
From what I remember of heat cured coatings is it is well above 200F. I have done some home coat and cures and it was well above 200F. There might be newer formulations that cure at lower temps. I am not saying don't just do with full information from people that know what they are doing and what they are doing it to.
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Yeah, IIRC most powder coat is 200C+
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Went back and looked at my notes. 400F is the cure temp for the stuff I use.

There was a set of wheels that had been stripped of an old coating and then powder coated and cured. The centers in both front wheels FEWC Porsche failed very soon after. Fairly sure it was discussed here but a quick search came up empty but I could also be remembering the details all wrong. I think the problems came from the centers being heated to higher than cure temps. some common aluminum casting alloys are heat sensitive. (google snip regarding 200 series below.)

"Cast aluminum alloys are used in many automotive applications to reduce weight and improve efficiency and vehicle performance. Some major uses for aluminum alloys include gasoline engine block and cylinder head castings, suspension components and turbine compressor wheels. The approximate temperature limit for 354 aluminum heat treated to the T61 temper is 347F (175C). The maximum operating temperature of most structural aluminum alloys, both cast and forged, is about 392F (200C). Historically, aluminum alloys have scarcely been used above that temperature."

Heating some alloys past a certain point permanently weakens the metal.
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400F is what most powdercoating companies use to cure.

Considering most wheels are forged.. is 400F too hot for them?
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