[MThomas]

I'm not really a Porsche guy. I just bought a 951 in July 2013 because I liked the way it looked and the way it drove. I bought it for $5500 knowing it would need some attention.
The plan was to take it to the track but in mid-project things changed on my end but I still completed most of what I set out to do with it. I want to see if it can go to a new home. I'd like to list it here first since I prefer a local transaction but given that a price has to be set and stuck to in the posting, I figured I'd get some opinions in this forum first as suggested in the FS/WTB forum.

I kept a log of most things (below). I haven't included minor things, oil changes, etc. This is not a garage queen or a show car, there are imperfections in the paint, etc but no dings or dents. I can take and post more pictures if this generates interest. Passed VA state inspection April 2015, no rust, spare keys, upgraded turbo, etc. The only thing not yet completed is connecting the vacuum lines to the boost solenoid on the Vitesse system in order to control boost per user specified settings. Right now I just have a coupling connector on there so I don't get more than 10 lbs boost since I'm not tracking it anyway. Here's the log, prior to 7/13 it was maintained by SSI in MD:

Date Description
4/12/2015 New battery, battery disconnect switch
3/21/2015 E-brake delete, new starter
1/20/2015 Slave cylinder flush, Water temp gauge using radiator hose adapter 38mm, cabin filter
12/14/2014 Brake Pads (World Brake Resources DTC 608-03WBCD608-7326 201990), Brake fluid flush, Sensor wires (PEX WK12 SKU 296526)
11/30/2014 Rotor, distributor cap, cables, plugs; brake pads (4), brake pad sensors (2), brake fluid change
10/31/2014 Transmission fluid change
9/23/2014 4 wheel alignment
9/15/2014 Short Shift kit
9/15/2014 Both front lower control arms and (Weltmeister) bushings
8/15/2014 Oil change, lucas oil stabilizer
8/6/2014 Fuel injector cleaner
8/6/2014 Tail light seals
8/6/2014 A/C recharge, selant
6/10/2014 P951: Door seal
6/10/2014 Window scraper
5/31/2014 Ignition bypass
5/30/2014 P951: Spare Keys
5/28/2014 Diaphram, diverter belt, oil pan seal leak
3/14/2014 P951: charging system check
3/1/2014 New thermostat
3/1/2014 Radiator flush
3/1/2014 New Fuel Lines
3/1/2014 Replaced Fuel tank with pressure tested used fuel tank
3/1/2014 Adjusted timing/cam belt
3/1/2014 Replaced alternator with remanufactured Bosch 120A alternator
1/1/2014 Radiator plug
1/1/2014 Replace right door seal
1/1/2014 Replace Right window seal
1/1/2014 Locking lugnuts
7/2013-12/2013 Vitesse Stage 3R Turbo
7/2013-12/2013 Interior delete
7/2013-12/2013 1/2 shaft kits
7/2013-12/2013 Exhaust welding
7/2013-12/2013 Fire extinguisher
7/2013-12/2013 Front strut brace
7/2013-12/2013 Go over entire car: replace worn hoses, clamps, etc
7/2013-12/2013 Headlight delete nose piece
7/2013-12/2013 High pressure fuel pump
7/2013-12/2013 Hood scoop
7/2013-12/2013 New oil pan
7/2013-12/2013 New Z-rated tires
7/2013-12/2013 Oil change
7/2013-12/2013 Oil intake breather with reducer
7/2013-12/2013 Power steering hose
7/2013-12/2013 Racing seats, seat brackets, seat slider
7/2013-12/2013 Repaint exterior
7/2013-12/2013 Repaint interior
7/2013-12/2013 Rollbar
7/2013-12/2013 Sunroof delete
7/2013-12/2013 Tune up
7/2013-12/2013 Vacuum line
7/2013-12/2013 Waste gate line
7/2013-12/2013 Rear wiper delete
12/20/2010 Parts: "Rod Bearing Set" $162.87, Labor: "(Combination) CONNECTING ROD BEARINGS - Replace - One"
10/1/2007 Parts: "Rod Bearing Set" $111.47, Labor: "(Combination) CONNECTING ROD BEARINGS - Replace - All"
2007-2013 Engine or transaxle mount - Turbo - Both, Engine
2007-2013 Oil pan gasket
2007-2013 Power steering pump drive belt
2007-2013 Repack front wheel bearing
2007-2013 Climate control blower motor resister
2007-2013 Power steering hose - [Includes: Bleed system]
2007-2013 Rear hatch
2007-2013 Replace all hoses to crank case control line
2007-2013 Replace all hoses to idle control valve
2007-2013 A/C System - Complete Charge
2007-2013 Balance shaft bearing housing
2007-2013 Condensor
2007-2013 Control arm bushing [Includes: R&I lower control arm]
2007-2013 Door handle - Outer, Each
2007-2013 Front engine oil cooler behind bumper
2007-2013 Left & right swaybay bushings
2007-2013 Power steering pulley & belt
2007-2013 Reseal oil filter housing to block
2007-2013 Right tie rod assembly
2007-2013 Weld in left & right rad support & install radiator, Includes R&R of front bumper cover, header panel & intercooler, both front head lights
2007-2013 Clutch master cylinder [Includes: Bleed system]
2007-2013 Clutch slave cylinder [Includes: Bleed system]
2007-2013 Cam tower gasket
2007-2013 Clutch master cylinder hose
2007-2013 Right brake light sensor
2007-2013 Trunk hatch switch
2007-2013 Gas tank filler neck cover
2007-2013 Shift lever & socket
2007-2013 Door wiring harness plugs
2007-2013 Exhaust manifold [Includes: replace gaskets]- Turbocharger
2007-2013 Left window switch
2007-2013 Wiper & washer switch
2007-2013 Connecting Rod bearings - all
2007-2013 Spark plug wire set
2007-2013 Clutch kit
2007-2013 Clutch release arm
2007-2013 Crankshaft oil seal - Turbo, standard trans - rear
2007-2013 Hood shocks
2007-2013 Machine flywheel
2007-2013 Hood latch release cable
2007-2013 Strut assembly
2007-2013 Driver side door stop
2007-2013 Hatch seal
2007-2013 Heater control flap drive motor
2007-2013 Rear hatch locks
2007-2013 Transaxle assembly
2007-2013 Camshaft housing - turbo
2007-2013 Crankshaft oil seal - - Turbo - Front
2007-2013 Cylinder head gasket set
2007-2013 Differential side seal
2007-2013 Disc rotor, rear both
2007-2013 Engine Seal Kit
2007-2013 Four wheel alignment adjustment
2007-2013 Horn assempbly -
2007-2013 Left & right balance shaft seals
2007-2013 Left & Right steering rack boots
2007-2013 Power mirros
2007-2013 Stabilizer bar bushing
2007-2013 Timing Belt
2007-2013 Timing Belt Tensioner
2007-2013 Water Pump

[ausgeflippt951]

Car looks very clean. Looks like you've put quite a bit of work into it; sorry you're feeling the need to sell. Thanks for keeping such a record.

Questions:

1. can you provide specs for the suspension?
2. Can you elaborate on the total package you're running from Vitesse? Sounds like you're also running his MAP.
3. What wastegate and exhaust?
4. Timing belt, water pump, and rollers -- only reference to outright replacement I can find is in the "2007-2013" section.
5. What was involved in the clutch kit ("2007-2013" section)? Once you're able to run more than 10 lbs of boost, the stock clutch + pressure plate will not be sufficient for a Vitesse Stage III, unfortunately.

[MThomas]

Originally Posted by ausgeflippt951

Car looks very clean. Looks like you've put quite a bit of work into it; sorry you're feeling the need to sell. Thanks for keeping such a record.

Questions:

1. can you provide specs for the suspension?
2. Can you elaborate on the total package you're running from Vitesse? Sounds like you're also running his MAP.
3. What wastegate and exhaust?
4. Timing belt, water pump, and rollers -- only reference to outright replacement I can find is in the "2007-2013" section.
5. What was involved in the clutch kit ("2007-2013" section)? Once you're able to run more than 10 lbs of boost, the stock clutch + pressure plate will not be sufficient for a Vitesse Stage III, unfortunately.

Embarrassingly I'm not sure my answers will be all that helpful as I don't know these cars as well as most of the dorkis and rennlisters but I'll try:

Suspension:
If I didn't address the area specifically (e.g. suspension) then I never changed it so I'd assume it's stock.

Vitesse:
Anything listed under 7/2013-12/2013 was done by Syracuse Porsche. The guy Donald said it's ok if people call him about the car. PM me and I'll give you his #.
To my knowledge, the chip is now a Vitesse chip, the injectors were changed to I believe 80 lb, the Turbo was changed from a stock 1" pipe to a 2.6" pipe, and then all the electronics that go with it.

Wastegate and Exhaust
The exhaust I'm pretty sure is stock 2.5", the wastegate I assume is stock as well.

Timing belt, water pump, and rollers:
Timing belt was done on 3/1/14 by RPM
If the water pump and rollers weren't listed then they haven't been done in a while but I drive the car 2-3 days/week to work in DC and traffic is horrendous and it doesn't overheat.
Anything listed under 2007-2013 was done by SSI and transcribed by me from the paper invoices. There was a ton of work done but I only transcribed the more notable items.

While at Syracuse Porsche (2013) it got a new set of tires and since then I'd put less than 1500 miles on it since I'd been driving it to work a couple times per week and once on the weekends on the highway to get it up to speed and up to rpms, basically for maintenance purposes as much as enjoyment.

It recently (this month) got a full inspection by RPM and mechanically it's solid. I'm sure Kevin wouldn't mind if you called him about the car.

If there's any actual interest on this board, pls PM me, otherwise it'll put it on Craigslist in the upcoming days.

[ausgeflippt951]

Thanks for the information -- while I'm not interested in the car myself (one 951 is enough of a headache...), these are the types of questions you should expect.

I would probably list the car for $10k but be prepared to take less for it. Given that it's track-focused (but without a track suspension/brakes), and yellow, it's more of a niche market car.

That said, the car is solid and you have done a good job of staying up to date on maintenance and records-keeping -- and that's worth something.

[ausgeflippt951]

Also -- what are the wheels? If they're Fikse's, let me know....

[blipshift]

Up front, I'm not in the market. Your car is a prime track car save for the unfortunate fact that it has stock suspension. So, to reiterate what Collin said, you've got a niche car; track car guys want upgraded suspension and street car folks want clean interior, along with what everyone wants, reliability. I think the custom work on the hood and front fascia also shrinks your potential buyers market. In your favor, however, is that 951s seem to be in shorter supply than say a couple years ago and prices are a little higher. I'd ask $9k but would realistically take $7k, or perhaps slightly less. Depends how motivated you are to sell.

[Vicegrip]

The front end makes my eyes water. Does it pass state with what look like fixed position headlights? As said stock susp and non stock rest is inverse of what a track guy wants. Might not to toss it out there with a price on it and lower the price every now and then until it sells.

Also try selling it on non Porsche forums / sites.

[flipb]

Saw you this morning on Columbia Pike near the Pentagon. Car looks good in person! The front end kit could pass for factory for anyone who doesn't know better.

[MThomas]

The fact you saw it auto-vouches for the fact that it can sit in traffic as a dd since traffic was horrendous yesterday ��
If suspension is the only thing holding it back from being sold as a track car i can do that (I've done suspension work on a 2001 vw i cant imagine it being that much more difficult on an 86 951).
But i think based on the $7-9k range it isn't worth it (id be embarrassed to reveal how much I've put into this)
Based on those dismal figures the best thing to do is eventually give it to someone who deserves and appreciates it

[cmartin]

Good luck

If suspension is the only thing holding it back from being sold as a track car i can do that

You can spend 2k on suspension and still get ~7-9k for the car.