[targa911man]

Looks like I'll be r&r'g the starter. Marc--it was the starter--whacked it with Robbie turning the key and it cranked. I had cleaned the ground straps and every other connection I could get to, switched out the DME relay, etc.--nothing worked. Richard--starter repair and removal didn't get complicated until 87(G50). My 85 looks like two bolts off and back on. I've order a high-torque replacement. Once I have it in hand I'll post what day/time I'll be doing it in case anybody wants to come by. Probably next weekend. Doesn't sound too complicated, but feel free to tell the wives/girlfriends (hope Lu doesn't read this) that I couldn't do it without you, so we can get together and bs/drink some beer.