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The green 993 is officially dead and gone.
I definitely want another caged car - DE or Racing, and prefer a prepped car to be rules compliant. I am weighing Vintage, E class, Spec Boxster, and whatever a 997/Cayman S (2009+) run in. I am even considering a C5 Vette. I am second or third in line for a GTB1 Cayman, but I expect the first guy is likely to buy it later this week. I want to be able to run pump gas for DE (reflash/whatever), and would like to keep consumable costs a tertiary consideration, not Cup cars with $10k/100 hr rebuilds, for example. Now that I am in Red, I would like to aim for sub 1:22 capable cars - I will pass on a 944 for now - and while faster than that time is ‘nice,’ it isn’t absolutely required. I am not committed to a specific class, and I am even considering a 996 GT3 with a side order of SSM. If you know of well prepped cars that you think are worth considering, please let me know. Finding slim pickings that don’t have something that is a question. Up to mid 60’s or 70, but would win major points at home for coming well below that.
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----- Ken 1988 911 Carrera 3.2 (1995 911 - gone) 1997 Spec Boxster - #121 2004 911 GT3 2022 Mini Cooper S 2008 VW Touareg 2 |
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I have a 99 boxster that's a good spb candidate, but it's stock, you'd have to get it built. You could easily be under 30k all in.
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Turning good track cars into other people's headaches since 1990 Denis Jenkins (PCA'86) 95 318ti S54 97 318ti S52 95 M3 S54 vin 00067 87 RX7 ITS 02 330i 98 328i 71 911T 70 Karmann Ghia, 96 f350 7.3 available Gone 4 356's,1 996, 4 911's, 1 912, 2 Boxster S, 5 914's, 3 944's, 3 951, 1 924S, 3 95 m3, 03 M3,95 Ti/CS. 97M345, 84 rx7chump car, ITB gti 21, ITB GTI 48, 89 325is s52,07 Z4 coupe, 69 Charger General Lee, 2 66 Cadillac verts, 1 68 cadillac vert, and many many others |
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Spec Boxster (SPB) is a good choice for a first race car, with some of the lowest operating expenses possible for a Porsche. However, you won't be breaking 1:22s in SPB; the current track record at SP Main for SPB is 1:23.383.
The going rate for a mostly-ready-to-run SPB is around $30K, and they don't last too long on the market. If you can do most of the work of building a stock Boxster into a race car, you can build an SPB for under $30K, but the trade-off is your time and labor. Or, you can contact a shop like Atlanta Speedwerks to build a car for you, which will run $35K-$45K, depending on options.
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2016 GT4 warp 7 1999 SPB warp 2, maybe 1973 914 2.0 1/2 impulse if it ever gets out of space dock Previous: 1973 914 1.7 1/4 impulse 2012 Cayman R warp 4 2006 Cayman S warp 3 1999 SPB warp 2, maybe 1966 911 warp 1.5 Last edited by BillC; 11-30-2019 at 11:11 AM. |
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Not to sidetrack this, but are you salvaging anything from the old car? Were you able to pull anything out of it, or buy it back for parting?
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David D. '87 Targa - 2021 quickly disappearing... |
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I wanted to, but my wife was not having it. It wasn’t worth arguing as she wasn’t opposed to another car. I know I left $$ on that table, but she is still keeping me for now.
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----- Ken 1988 911 Carrera 3.2 (1995 911 - gone) 1997 Spec Boxster - #121 2004 911 GT3 2022 Mini Cooper S 2008 VW Touareg 2 |
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Broad spectrum of choices.. and considering the vette implies willingness for other brands.. what about BMW?
Who do you want to race with? PCA? SCCA? NASA? HSR? VSSCA? Imho, best bang for the buck is still Spec Miata or SRF (spec race ford) As for sub 1:22, doesn't the boy do that in his 944?
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Dave - 1970 914-6 Past - 2000 Boxster - 1987 944 - 1987 924S - 1978 911 Euro SC - 1976 914 2.0 - 1970 914 1.7 / 2056cc |
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But I agree definitely decide who you want to race with before buying anything. Also not trying to shoot it down but I know a lot of people that spend cup car money running gtb1 cars... or that's at least how it seems.
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Robbie Wilson 87 944 (the red car) 86 944 #171 ITS/SP2 racecar 3 time 944 cup world champion |
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Turning good track cars into other people's headaches since 1990 Denis Jenkins (PCA'86) 95 318ti S54 97 318ti S52 95 M3 S54 vin 00067 87 RX7 ITS 02 330i 98 328i 71 911T 70 Karmann Ghia, 96 f350 7.3 available Gone 4 356's,1 996, 4 911's, 1 912, 2 Boxster S, 5 914's, 3 944's, 3 951, 1 924S, 3 95 m3, 03 M3,95 Ti/CS. 97M345, 84 rx7chump car, ITB gti 21, ITB GTI 48, 89 325is s52,07 Z4 coupe, 69 Charger General Lee, 2 66 Cadillac verts, 1 68 cadillac vert, and many many others |
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Yep. That's what I told him.
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John V 2024 BMW G87 ///M2 (Next 444) 2021 Toyota Supra GR (The Bupra, Other 444) 2016 BMW M235 2015 Porsche Cayenne Diesel 2007 Cayman S, #444 2013 Golf R 2012 BWM x5 2017 Mazda MX-5 Club 3 time DE Parade Lap Champion #BestInstructorEver - Unknown |
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If you want to race, go to BMW.
If you are set on Pcar, I would suggest SPC. Do a search on Rennlist. I think there were a couple of cars that if still available, could be had in the $40s. Good Hands got out of GTB before it got too expensive, but he ran both GTB and 99x Cup and would know the cost comparison. I think these days you will need about the same running budget for GTB vs an early Cup. If I were 10 years younger and wanted to race Pcar, 996 Cup would be were I'd go between the two classes. BUT SERIOUSLY, if you want to race, go to BMW.
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Nader There are 3 sides to every story. Mine, yours, and the truth. 91 944 S2 - Mine, Sold 7? 914-6 Vintage racer - Mine 93 964 - Not mine 95 993 - Hers - Sold and will be missed 04 GT3 - ours? Doing double duties at DE, anyway 06 987 - Hers - plan to let son use for DE - My DIY A few others |
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