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Thoughts on R888R tires, and others for DE?
I am hoping to get some track time in my Cayman GTS during 2023, and I am looking for advice on tires . . .
I have a set of stock 20" rims and a set of OZ 19" rims (19 x 8.5 and 19 x 10). I presume I will use the 19" rims for DE. I currently have a set of Yoko A052 tires on them -- 235/40 and 265/40. I found these tires pretty good for autocross, and maybe I will use the same for DE. However, I am interested in getting something that might be better on track. The last few years I had my 996, I was very happy with Nitto NT01 tires. I would go straight to those, except the sizes available for 19" rims are limited. The closest I can come to what I have now are 235/35 and 285/35. I could buy a set of 18" rims and get more options, but I will have plenty of other things to spend money on if I do some track weekends. Another option is Toyo R888R. They are available in 245/35 and 275/35 for 19" rims. My only hesitancy here is that a few years ago (summer 2017) there was a string of R888R failures among various PCA drivers. If I remember correctly, there were three failures the same weekend at Summit Point. Was that a strange anomaly? Anybody been using these tires since? If so, do you like them? Any other thoughts?
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2015 Cayman GTS 2021 Jetta R-line 2016 F-250 Formerly owned Porsche/BMW: 1986 944 Turbo 2006 325i 2000 911 1987 924S 1999 Boxster 1986 944 Last edited by Mark Hubley; 12-08-2022 at 09:58 AM. |
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While not the same car obviously, I had a set of R888Rs on my C5, and coming from RA-1s on my 944, I didn't care for them. They were not very good in the rain, and seemed to lose grip much more quickly as heat cycles increased. Maybe I was spoiled by the RA-1s giving me great grip up until the cords were about to show I went to Nankang AR-1s next on the C5, and I like those a lot better.
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Hey Mark -
On the 997.1, I had several sets cord on me (always the left rear tire at VIR). I won't ever use them again. Brad
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Brad 2005 911 S (Track) 2012 911 Cab Black Edition (Garage Queen) 2017 Ford Expedition (Tow Vehicle/Hauler) 2015 Cayman (DD) 2015 Boxster (Wife's Toy) 1987 911 2000 Malibu Flightcraft (Barefoot Boat) |
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Cup 2 Connects without the extra tire sensors on the 996 GT3. Best track tire I have ever used, period. They have a stiffer sidewall design vs. the standard Cup 2’s.
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Karl Lucky owner of a couple of 911’s and another Porsche |
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I've heard really good things about the Goodyear Supercar 3 tires. To the point where they're the leading candidate for my next set of track tires for the GT4 -- multiple PCAP drivers have them and really like them.
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2016 GT4 warp 7 1999 SPB warp 2, maybe 1973 914 2.0 1/2 impulse if it ever gets out of space dock Previous: 1973 914 1.7 1/4 impulse 2012 Cayman R warp 4 2006 Cayman S warp 3 1999 SPB warp 2, maybe 1966 911 warp 1.5 |
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Bill, are you referring to the F1 Supercar 3 (220 treadwear) or the F1 Supercar 3R (100 treadwear)?
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Peter (not "Pete") K. 2016 Cayman S 1999 Miata ("SM") race car 2016 Toyota Highlander--tow vehicle/wife's DD 2017 VW GTI SE (DD) Gone and missed: 1992 Miata ("SSM") race car 2009 911 C2S Coupe 2004 Toyota Prius - sold to son's girlfriend 2006 Dodge Durango 2003 Acura MDX 86 Black 911 Coupe race car 86 Gold 911 Targa 82 WineRedMetallic 911 Targa |
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except for the Supercar 3R's, I have run all of the below tires in racing or HPDE instructor groups.
A-052 - have a set on my E30 M3 for track days. very impressed. super sticky, great steering response. need a lot of front camber. perfect for lighter car. will buy again. R888R - just no. low traction, squeal like a pig, vague steering response. really unimpressed when i ran a set on my BMW 2002 ( not stock..ran 1:25's on summit main on Z214's) NANKANG AR-1 - we use these on the race E30 325's for vintage races. surprisingly good. drive like a race tire. good grip. last long time. GY F1 Supercar 3R - while i have not used them, lots of the SCCA instructors do and I have heard nothing but great comments about them. Toyo RR's - run away. suck as a race tire and don't last for HPDE's Hankook Z214's - the go to race tire. just a tick off Hoosier R7's for lap times and life and response is similar. fraction of the cost of R7's. Hoosier - if ya want to win, there is no other choice.
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I have never heard anyone say anything good about the triple 8's.
Lots of good info here: https://grassrootsmotorsports.com/ar...-buyers-guide/
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Steve Potomac PCA Co-CI(retired) 89 944 Turbo Race car 85.5 944 NA son's 2015/2019/2020 944Cup and PCA Nat'l Champ racecar 94 968 1 of 11 Iris blue coupes 92 968 1 of 2 Tahoe Blue Cabriolets 98 993 C2S w/Aerokit II 77 911S Vintage race car project 70 Boss 302 86 Mustang SVO 08 F250 SD Diesel 15 Audi SQ5 "Noel spun! Noel spun! Don't do anything stupid, Dad." -the boy on the radio on the last lap of NASA race as the second place car spins behind me in T5 at Summit Point. |
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Mike 14 981 Cayman S Wall of Dearly Departed Loved Ones 07 987 Cayman S 03 996 86 944 74 914 78 924 Bro Code Rule 43: When a Bro learns another Bro has been in a traffic accident, they must first ask what condition the car is in. |
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I love the Yoko A052 tires, but we haven't been able to get them. Forget the NT01s, too. Had to get Hoosiers for several events.
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Lara ___________ 2009 Cayman S x 2 PCA Potomac Chief Driver Ambassador #21 (Ladybug) and #28 (Bumblebee) |
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