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Old 10-13-2012, 01:34 PM
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For the price of a rebuild, I'd consider driving it as is and see how it does. Pulling the engine is peanuts compared to a rebuild. I'm sure others will disagree--esp. those who've seen their rods through the hole in an installed engine...
I wouldn't. just in time rebuilds are less $$$ than ones after something goes horably wrong!
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For the price of a rebuild, I'd consider driving it as is and see how it does. Pulling the engine is peanuts compared to a rebuild. I'm sure others will disagree--esp. those who've seen their rods through the hole in an installed engine...
1) running a motor with a spun bearing can lead to expensive additional damage, 2) once the motor is out of the car a rebuild isn't actually that time-consuming. in the time it takes to R&R everything, you're pretty far along in the rebuild...
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Since the motor is on a pallet and the issue is known about I will open it up to look at the bearings and crank. I really like the idea of putting some good money into the motor so it's a known quantity. It's not like I don't have the time. I'll have a nice clean motor to put in the rsr. Thanks guys.

Any other mods I should do while the case is open?
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Make sure you change the valve guides. A common mod is RS cams and intake valves.
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1) running a motor with a spun bearing can lead to expensive additional damage, 2) once the motor is out of the car a rebuild isn't actually that time-consuming. in the time it takes to R&R everything, you're pretty far along in the rebuild...
What?
Have you actually rebuilt a 993 motor?
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What?
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How long to write a check??
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The motor might have a bearing that needs to be looked at.
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Since the motor is on a pallet and the issue is known about I will open it up to look at the bearings and crank. I really like the idea of putting some good money into the motor so it's a known quantity. It's not like I don't have the time. I'll have a nice clean motor to put in the rsr. Thanks guys.
The second post sounds pretty different from the first to me. If you have the skillz, tools, and time to do the rebuild yourself, it's a very different matter than buying the motor and then writing a check...
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The second post sounds pretty different from the first to me. If you have the skillz, tools, and time to do the rebuild yourself, it's a very different matter than buying the motor and then writing a check...
No check writing for me. Not sure where that statement came from? Defeats the purpose of why I have cars and work on them. I have the tools .. maybe not some special tools but I should be fine. I have the time and the skills. The PO said he was running the engine at a DE event and heard a noise. It was immediately shut down. The crank spin freely. I want to open it for my own piece of mind. It will get a freshen up ... seals, bearings, rings .. etc. Pull heads and clean carbon and address any issues. So essentially a rebuild.

I take back the no check writing ... the trans might get one. Im not super familiar with trans work. Im going to try but well see.
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What?
Have you actually rebuilt a 993 motor?
sort of. have definitely R&R'd a couple of 'em, and rebuilt a bunch of earlier motors.

what i'm saying is this:

Dude A has a 993 motor sitting in front of him. Dude B has a 993 motor in a car. Now start a stopwatch. Dude B has to R&R his motor. Dude A has to tear down and rebuild his motor. How far along in the job will Dude A be in the time it takes Dude B to R&R the motor? I would argue, "more than halfway." That was my point.
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Takes perhaps 3 hours to pull a 993 motor and trans. Lets say it takes an extra hour to put it back in. I do not want a motor that was rebuilt in 7 hours. Teardown is about 8% of a rebuild. Hell, just cleaning and inspecting all the reused parts takes far more time than the motor pull itself.

Matters not, as discribed I too would would tear the motor down too. I bought a pig in a poke motor. Got it from someone that got it from someone. Stuffed it in the car and fired it up. Has not missed a beat yet. Cleaned out the injectors and put in some new spark plugs after a fuel filter failure, bolted in a set of new ex side lifters is about it so far.
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