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Old 07-21-2022, 01:07 PM
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Has anyone tried the new Michelin Cup 2 Connect on the track?

They are one of the few tires that I am able to locate in the proper size for the 996 GT3.

I’m curious if you have experience with them without the monitoring system?
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A few years ago at PCA Tech Tactics the guy there from Michelin said that the Cup 2 connect tires were the same as the cup 2's, they just have a little pocket on the inside for the sensor.
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Old 07-22-2022, 08:43 AM
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A few years ago at PCA Tech Tactics the guy there from Michelin said that the Cup 2 connect tires were the same as the cup 2's, they just have a little pocket on the inside for the sensor.
Thanks, I also attended those Tech Tactics sessions for three years in a row prior to Covid canceling the event. The Cup 2 Connect uses a different compound and mold in the shoulder from the Cup 2 specifically to strengthen shoulder wear.

In addition the Michelin tire rep had some very interesting comments about heat cycles. “Michelin engineers consider a heat cycle a full track day, not a session” Don’t shoot the messenger 😮
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I have a set on my Cayman. So far they've survived 3 days at PittRace, 2 at Summit, along with ~1K driving the car around. Tread-wise they're holding up well. Grip-wise, they don't seem to have lost a lot from their first day to the last. The shoulders are holding up well, too. (Note: I have about 2 degrees of negative camber up front, so that helps)

What I've noticed as I drive them: they're on the quieter side. I could get the previous tires (Pirellis) on the car to complain a great deal. These, I don't know that I've heard them squeal yet. (There's a national character joke in there)

They heat up pretty quickly, and seem to hold up well to 20-30 min DE sessions - even in 90+ heat at PittRace. Where the Pirellis got greasy more than once at VIR, I think I only managed to overheat the Cup2s once. A lap later, after asking less of the tire for a full circuit, they were fine.

I don't have the super-neat-o whizbang connect sensor and app, so I can't comment on that. I'm happy having 2 completely non-functional buttons on the car's console to push when I get bored.

When I was looking, Costco had a good price & healthy rebate - which is what got me into the tire.


Full disclosure about the tire reviewer: I don't have a ton of tire comparisons in the under-200TW set (these are 240TWs, or so Michelin claims), so I can't tell you how they compare to some of folks' favorites. Nor am I pushing the tire as much as a lot of people on here: I stand by my statement "All my laps look like cool-down laps".

Having said all that: for my purposes at the price I paid, it's been a good tire. I can drive it to the track. The car isn't terrifying in the rain anymore. It is clearly grippier than my PS4S, far grippier than the long-dead Pirellis and they seem to have reasonable life in them yet, which is good.

Happy to add more if I can, and if seeing the tire will help, I'm happy to figure out a way to share the glory of this particular set of vulcanized rubber donuts.
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Old 07-22-2022, 08:28 PM
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I have a set on my Cayman. So far they've survived 3 days at PittRace, 2 at Summit, along with ~1K driving the car around. Tread-wise they're holding up well. Grip-wise, they don't seem to have lost a lot from their first day to the last. The shoulders are holding up well, too. (Note: I have about 2 degrees of negative camber up front, so that helps)

What I've noticed as I drive them: they're on the quieter side. I could get the previous tires (Pirellis) on the car to complain a great deal. These, I don't know that I've heard them squeal yet. (There's a national character joke in there)

They heat up pretty quickly, and seem to hold up well to 20-30 min DE sessions - even in 90+ heat at PittRace. Where the Pirellis got greasy more than once at VIR, I think I only managed to overheat the Cup2s once. A lap later, after asking less of the tire for a full circuit, they were fine.

I don't have the super-neat-o whizbang connect sensor and app, so I can't comment on that. I'm happy having 2 completely non-functional buttons on the car's console to push when I get bored.

When I was looking, Costco had a good price & healthy rebate - which is what got me into the tire.


Full disclosure about the tire reviewer: I don't have a ton of tire comparisons in the under-200TW set (these are 240TWs, or so Michelin claims), so I can't tell you how they compare to some of folks' favorites. Nor am I pushing the tire as much as a lot of people on here: I stand by my statement "All my laps look like cool-down laps".

Having said all that: for my purposes at the price I paid, it's been a good tire. I can drive it to the track. The car isn't terrifying in the rain anymore. It is clearly grippier than my PS4S, far grippier than the long-dead Pirellis and they seem to have reasonable life in them yet, which is good.

Happy to add more if I can, and if seeing the tire will help, I'm happy to figure out a way to share the glory of this particular set of vulcanized rubber donuts.
Appreciate it, exactly the feedback I was looking for

FedEx dropped the new set off at the dealership today, should be mounted and balanced for P-fest, see you at the track.
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Appreciate it, exactly the feedback I was looking for

FedEx dropped the new set off at the dealership today, should be mounted and balanced for P-fest, see you at the track.

How did you like the new Cup 2s?
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How did you like the new Cup 2s?
I liked the cup 2’s a lot. Had a minor issue with the aftermarket wheels that needed a 3mm spacer and retired the car as a result. I am going to put the cup 2’s on my OEM wheels for Indy next month.

Fortunately the race car was already at the track, inspected and ready to go
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