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Old 01-21-2018, 01:17 PM
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Last week, a notice of several rule changes for our upcoming Potomac DE program was sent out. The announcement included a change requiring a roll bar when using harnesses “in anticipation of the forthcoming mandate from PCA National”. We have clarified this with National. PCA National has no current plans to implement a rule requiring a roll bar.

After further consideration and discussions the earlier changes will not take place as listed.
The following will take place:

EFFECTIVE July 1, 2018: an approved Head and Neck Restraint System (HANS) device is required when using a harness.

When using a head and neck restraint device, it must meet the standards of either SFI 38.1 or FIA 8858. It is recommended that one follow the SFI Recertification process for the head and neck restraint device. The instructions for this can be found on the device. Additionally, it is recommended that the straps be replaced every five years.
Also keep in mind, both the driver and passenger must have the same restraint system and both the driver and the passenger must use the same restraint system.

Potomac will have a few sets of helmet anchors available and at this time we believe there are enough available HANS to be borrowed.

The participant should BE AWARE that the addition of such a seat, harness and HANS device system results in the occupant being fastened upright in the vehicle. Therefore, in order to have a COMPLETE SYSTEM, a properly padded roll bar or roll cage device are strongly encouraged and highly recommended. The use of such a seat, harness and HANS device system without roll protection may result in an unsafe environment and is not a COMPLETE SYSTEM.

The "seat" should be either an “OEM or aftermarket racing type seat specifically designed to accommodate a harness system most typically a non-reclining seat with holes incorporated in the manufacturing process to allow proper use of a harness system."
"All roll cage installations must conform to PCA Club Racing Standards Appendix A-Roll Cage Specifications . If participants choose to install a roll bar, they must meet the tubing size and mounting/installation requirements as outlined in Appendix A-Roll Cage Specifications in the PCA club racing rulebook and/or be installed to the manufacturer specifications."

If you have any questions or would like further information please contact DEchair@pcapotomac.org, Safety@pca.org, or tech@pcapotomac.org

PCA Potomac's commitment to safety is paramount and we believe these rule changes will only strengthen that resolve.
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Please read carefully, we are not mandating that anyone downgrades their system, only that both must have same. If Instructor and student personally decide to use a 3 point system when harness is available, can't see why they would but? then both would use that system.

I apologise for the previous posting as we thought the mandatory roll bar question had been decided when it has only been talked about. Our mistake. The original intent of the HANS ruling was to add that to equal restraints.
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Thanks, Dirk!

Can you also review the flowdown from Clubrace rules? I don't think most aftermarket bolt-ins meet that standard including the mandated convertible rule previously met by BK roll bar extensions.

Thanks for all the hard work and thought.
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So, am I correct in interpreting this as saying if three-points are used, that one of the sides can choose to wear a 3-point compatible device, but that won’t require both sides to have a device?

I know of a few instructors who purchased 3-point compatible devices for protection when riding in students’ cars.

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My opinion again, but I think that would be a personal choice of the Instructor as it is not "attached" directly to the car. Will need clarification from others.
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So, am I correct in interpreting this as saying if three-points are used, that one of the sides can choose to wear a 3-point compatible device, but that won’t require both sides to have a device?

I know of a few instructors who purchased 3-point compatible devices for protection when riding in students’ cars.

(Asking for a friend - seriously)

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That is acceptable to safety, good to go
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