Washer repair - Dorkiphus.net

Other Technical Discussions A place for technical discussions NOT related to Porsche or BMW. Other makes, home DIY, etc.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-16-2017, 09:38 PM
86911TLCAB 86911TLCAB is offline
Tito
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bristow VA
Posts: 2,189
86911TLCAB
Default Washer repair

Hate when non car things get in the way. Have been dealing with some front load whirlpool duet washer issues. So pulled the washer apart thinking I had a bearing issue. Ordered new bearings. Pulled apart the tub and found the spider arm on the back of the tub broken in three pieces.

While the wife was thinking she was about to get a new washing machine, Called whirlpool to find the only part on this 14 year old washer with a lifetime warranty was the drum, with spider arm. Have begun reassembly and hope to have it back together with new bearings. Waiting on a new tub gasket and hopefully it will all come together.
Attached Images
 
__________________
Tito

82 911 SC with 3.2
73 RSR project
97 328is
99 328is
97 Lexus SC300 Manual

86 TL (gone)
993 (gone)
75 911S (gone)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-16-2017, 09:39 PM
86911TLCAB 86911TLCAB is offline
Tito
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bristow VA
Posts: 2,189
86911TLCAB
Default

Broken spider arm
Attached Images
 
__________________
Tito

82 911 SC with 3.2
73 RSR project
97 328is
99 328is
97 Lexus SC300 Manual

86 TL (gone)
993 (gone)
75 911S (gone)
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-16-2017, 09:54 PM
BlackTalon's Avatar
BlackTalon BlackTalon is offline
Make Dorki Great Again
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Alexandria, Virginia
Posts: 14,800
BlackTalon
Default

I went through a bearing replacement on a Maytag about 2 years ago. Definitely a bear to undertake something like this is the typical cramped confines of a laundry room. But well worth the $150 or so in order to stave off forking out $1,500+ for a new one.

The way yours broke makes me wonder if unbalanced loads fatigued the metal, although the pattern along the cracks looks more typical of a brittle failure. What is that piece made of? is it stamped aluminum or steel, or something that looks cast?
__________________
David D.
'87 Targa

- 2021 quickly disappearing...
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-16-2017, 10:23 PM
86911TLCAB 86911TLCAB is offline
Tito
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bristow VA
Posts: 2,189
86911TLCAB
Default

Dave the piece is not magnetic. Not sure what it is made of nor how made. I suspect cast. The bearings cost me 75 bucks and a new tub seal 20. Had I needed to buy a new tub in order to repair (600 new) would have tossed the unit and bought another. Let's see if it all works after I put it back together. May still end up buying a new one yet. If nothing else the bearings both seemed to be fine. Replaced them as a precaution, but they seemed ok.
__________________
Tito

82 911 SC with 3.2
73 RSR project
97 328is
99 328is
97 Lexus SC300 Manual

86 TL (gone)
993 (gone)
75 911S (gone)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-16-2017, 11:16 PM
cmartin's Avatar
cmartin cmartin is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Pasadena, MD
Posts: 7,582
cmartin
Default

jbweld!

good work
__________________
78 SC, the 'Red Car'
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-17-2017, 06:11 AM
BlackTalon's Avatar
BlackTalon BlackTalon is offline
Make Dorki Great Again
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Alexandria, Virginia
Posts: 14,800
BlackTalon
Default

Maybe it is cast aluminum -- the worst of all worlds.

Give it to Rotheus, and ask him to cast a new one using the lost wax process or something similar. He can probably have it for you by lunch time
__________________
David D.
'87 Targa

- 2021 quickly disappearing...
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-17-2017, 07:32 AM
86911TLCAB 86911TLCAB is offline
Tito
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bristow VA
Posts: 2,189
86911TLCAB
Default

fortunately the new drum and arm are here, bearings and back half all together just waiting for a tub gasket. Should have it up and running later today.

Dave do you recall if there is any torque stating for the rear nut? I haven't been able to find one though may call whirlpool today and ask.
__________________
Tito

82 911 SC with 3.2
73 RSR project
97 328is
99 328is
97 Lexus SC300 Manual

86 TL (gone)
993 (gone)
75 911S (gone)
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 11-17-2017, 07:39 AM
Vicegrip's Avatar
Vicegrip Vicegrip is offline
Porkchop & SGB for prez!
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: The other Woodstock.
Posts: 13,240
Vicegrip has seven HoF threadsVicegrip has seven HoF threadsVicegrip has seven HoF threadsVicegrip has seven HoF threadsVicegrip has seven HoF threadsVicegrip has seven HoF threads
Default

I suspect the extensive corrosion is the reason it failed. I would test my feed water and detergent used to get a solution that is as close to 7 as you can.
Residential laundry soap PH often quite high with the addition of sodium hydroxide AKA caustic soda. It is used to soften hard water and it converts grease and oil into a soap of sorts. If you have soft water to begin with the PH of the wash solution can be high. This is not much of an issue for clothing but it can be on soap solution wetted parts. Sodium hydroxide will eat aluminum and magnesium for lunch.

We used to carefully tune the detergents to the water in com washers used in health clubs. A standard detergent and a additional tuned "sour" would be added together.
__________________
http://vimeo.com/29896988

“Those that can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire.

"There is grandeur in this view of life...." Darwin.

The mountains are calling and I must go.

“The earth has music for those who listen”
Shakespeare.

You Matter.
(Until you multiply yourself times the speed of light squared. Then you Energy)

“We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence’.

Last edited by Vicegrip; 11-17-2017 at 07:46 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 11-17-2017, 09:54 AM
smdubovsky's Avatar
smdubovsky smdubovsky is offline
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Silver Spring, MD
Posts: 5,281
smdubovsky has three HoF threadssmdubovsky has three HoF threadssmdubovsky has three HoF threads
Default

Our spider failed last year. Not as ugly looking as yours but its a very common point of failure. It was not a separately avail part on ours. I wasn't home and the wife said it was making a heck of a racket and did nothing. So it destroyed the front half of the plastic barrel from rubbing. I was getting my clothes out of the washer to put in the dryer and was thinking **WTF** did I leave in my pockets? TONS of half melted plastic bits in everything. Even buying used parts it would have added to a big enough bill to just 'total' the washer and buy another. I saved a bunch of parts that I should put on ebay.
__________________
Stephen
www.salazar-racing.com
1970 914/6 - 3.0L GT
1983 911SC - 3.32L IROC
1984 930
2008 S2R1000, dirt bikes (some gas, some electric), Sherco trials bike
Sold: 2001 Boxster (hers), 2003 996tt x50 , SpecE30, 1996 E36M3 GTS2 racecar, 2015 Mustang GT
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 11-17-2017, 12:20 PM
86911TLCAB 86911TLCAB is offline
Tito
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Bristow VA
Posts: 2,189
86911TLCAB
Default

I stopped the machine when I heard the racket. There is a little rubbing damage to the front half of the tub but not enough to worry about. Had the drum and spider not been under lifetime warranty I would have tossed the machine and made the wife happy buying a new one. But given that I got it for free am going to try and salvage the machine....hopefully. Will know tomorrow if it works. If anything may have a new drum with spider available for sale to offset cost of a new machine.
__________________
Tito

82 911 SC with 3.2
73 RSR project
97 328is
99 328is
97 Lexus SC300 Manual

86 TL (gone)
993 (gone)
75 911S (gone)
Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump