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transition from cayman to 911?
i have an opportunity on a 991 gt3 that i like
i have considered the increased costs of running a gt3 over what the 981 cayman s has been, basically about double based on that alone, perhaps i should not do it i am also concerned about going from a mid-engine car to a rear engine car while i have driven 911s on street and on track during a porsche experience, that was limited i have also had some right seat track time in a few 911s if anyone here has made that transition, and would like to comment on their experience, please do so here or send me a pm, as i would love to hear from you if i don't do this now, i likely never will get a gt3, as in a few years from now, i will likely go for a pre loved c8 mid-engine track fit vette, and that will likely be my last track toy otto
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Honestly, with as much as you have driven on the track you should be able to hop in any car and drive it on the track with a certain level of competence right off the bat. And then you slowly add speed, etc. while you learn the differences in the car. Just don't throw it into the turns the way you do with the Cayman initially -- go slower and build up as you develop a feel for the car and learn the differences in grip and dynamics.
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David D. '87 Targa - 2024 is the year, beeches... |
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Just do it. Never turn down the opportunity for a Porsche GT-X. They are all great cars.
Worst that happens is you hate it, you sell it for a profit fwiw, in an analog aircooled world, I found a 911 much easier to drive fast than a 914. Why? because the rear engine bias in the 911 made it easy to know when the rear was coming around and play with the throttle steering ability. The 914 had cornering higher limits, but required greater focus as you reached the maximum. fast hands needed. The boxster I had was less twitchy than my 914, in part because it had so much understeer built in. A modern 911 still has understeer built in and perhaps more than a boxster does (thank you lawyers). See above.. just do it!
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Dave - 1970 914-6 Past - 2000 Boxster - 1987 944 - 1987 924S - 1978 911 Euro SC - 1976 914 2.0 - 1970 914 1.7 / 2056cc |
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I like David's comments above but would also add that a 911 will talk to you, if you are willing to listen, much more and certainly sooner than a Cayman.
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Ken 2023 Audi Q7 Daily Driver Considering next Porsche 1990 964, Red, Number 692 (Misty) sold 2010 Trailex (Dusty) sold 2003 996, (Speedy) Grey sold Life is short; just drive....... (boat, bike, etc.) |
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Otto, you are overthinking it again!! Buy the bloody thing or not, up to you.
Dirk
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Safety Chair, PCA Potomac Region Retired DE Chair, PCA Potomac Region. Retired Co-Chief Instructor PCA Potomac 2008-2012 1971 914/6 (Factory) 3.2 Track car 1988 911 Targa 1986 944 |
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et tu Dirk!.
He is talking about a 991 and asking a question that has not applied to a 911 since 70's torsion bar cars on skinny tires. I dare say the idea of off throttle snap oversteer has applied less and less with every generation of 911 since 964, and is now is the same as driving a s-Class MB. The idea of unstable backend and any modern Porsche is an oxymoron. The freaking 991 GT3 drives it self more easily than the 981.
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Nader There are 3 sides to every story. Mine, yours, and the truth. 91 944 S2 - Mine, Sold 7? 914-6 Vintage racer - Mine 93 964 - Not mine 95 993 - Hers - Sold and will be missed 04 GT3 - ours? Doing double duties at DE, anyway 06 987 - Hers - plan to let son use for DE - My DIY A few others |
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991’s have more front grip (less understeer) than the 996 & 997’s, in my experience. Not as rear engine as they used to be. They’re almost too easy for a worldly driver like yourself.
How did you figure 2x running cost? Bigger tires and bigger brake pads? 981 will need more cooling, bigger brakes, suspension, etc... I would think 981 “running costs” would be more, long term. And agree that depreciation is likely less in a GT car, assuming you are buying at the right price.
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do it
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Do it, Otto!!!
We get one spin. Leave nothing on the table for ‘wish I had actually when I could have done it.”
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----- Ken 1988 911 Carrera 3.2 (1995 911 - gone) 1997 Spec Boxster - #121 2004 911 GT3 2022 Mini Cooper S 2008 VW Touareg 2 |
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Do it, do it, do it...
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Karl Lucky owner of a couple of 911’s and another Porsche |
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