WTB Race Car - Dorkiphus.net

Porsche & BMW Cars For Sale/Wanted Post For Sale or WTB adds for Porsche & BMW cars here. Strictly moderated.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-30-2019, 08:14 AM
Handlebar's Avatar
Handlebar Handlebar is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Herndon, VA
Posts: 747
Handlebar
Default WTB Race Car

The green 993 is officially dead and gone.

I definitely want another caged car - DE or Racing, and prefer a prepped car to be rules compliant. I am weighing Vintage, E class, Spec Boxster, and whatever a 997/Cayman S (2009+) run in. I am even considering a C5 Vette. I am second or third in line for a GTB1 Cayman, but I expect the first guy is likely to buy it later this week.

I want to be able to run pump gas for DE (reflash/whatever), and would like to keep consumable costs a tertiary consideration, not Cup cars with $10k/100 hr rebuilds, for example. Now that I am in Red, I would like to aim for sub 1:22 capable cars - I will pass on a 944 for now - and while faster than that time is ‘nice,’ it isn’t absolutely required.

I am not committed to a specific class, and I am even considering a 996 GT3 with a side order of SSM.

If you know of well prepped cars that you think are worth considering, please let me know. Finding slim pickings that don’t have something that is a question. Up to mid 60’s or 70, but would win major points at home for coming well below that.
__________________
-----
Ken

1988 911 Carrera 3.2
(1995 911 - gone)
1997 Spec Boxster - #121
2008 Subaru Outback
2008 VW Touareg 2
2010 Subaru Outback
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 11-30-2019, 10:55 AM
Goggles Paesano's Avatar
Goggles Paesano Goggles Paesano is offline
Where's the beef?
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Earth
Posts: 526
Goggles Paesano
Default

I have a 99 boxster that's a good spb candidate, but it's stock, you'd have to get it built. You could easily be under 30k all in.
__________________
Turning good track cars into other people's headaches since 1990

Denis Jenkins
95 M3 serial number 00067
07 Z4 Coupe
00 325i
95 318ti CS 1 of 5
71 911t
70 Karmann Ghia,

96 f350 7.3 dually.
Gone
4 356's,1 996, 4 911's, 1 912, 2 Boxster S, 5 914's, 3 944's, 2 951, 1 924S, 3 95 m3, 03 M3 (Shane's now),97M345, 84 rx7chump car, ITB gti 21, ITB GTI 48, 89 325is s52, 69 Charger General Lee, 2 66 Cadillac verts, 1 68 cadillac vert, and many many others
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-30-2019, 11:05 AM
BillC's Avatar
BillC BillC is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Silver Spring, MD
Posts: 964
BillC
Default

Spec Boxster (SPB) is a good choice for a first race car, with some of the lowest operating expenses possible for a Porsche. However, you won't be breaking 1:22s in SPB; the current track record at SP Main for SPB is 1:23.383.

The going rate for a mostly-ready-to-run SPB is around $30K, and they don't last too long on the market. If you can do most of the work of building a stock Boxster into a race car, you can build an SPB for under $30K, but the trade-off is your time and labor. Or, you can contact a shop like Atlanta Speedwerks to build a car for you, which will run $35K-$45K, depending on options.
__________________
2016 GT4 warp 7
1973 914 1.7 1/4 impulse
1999 SPB warp 2, maybe

Last edited by BillC; 11-30-2019 at 11:11 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 11-30-2019, 11:17 AM
BlackTalon's Avatar
BlackTalon BlackTalon is offline
#polishforprez
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Alexandria, Virginia
Posts: 14,402
BlackTalon
Default

Not to sidetrack this, but are you salvaging anything from the old car? Were you able to pull anything out of it, or buy it back for parting?
__________________
David D.
'87 Targa

- 2020 quickly disappearing...
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 11-30-2019, 02:50 PM
Handlebar's Avatar
Handlebar Handlebar is offline
 
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Herndon, VA
Posts: 747
Handlebar
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackTalon View Post
Not to sidetrack this, but are you salvaging anything from the old car? Were you able to pull anything out of it, or buy it back for parting?
I wanted to, but my wife was not having it. It wasnít worth arguing as she wasnít opposed to another car. I know I left $$ on that table, but she is still keeping me for now.
__________________
-----
Ken

1988 911 Carrera 3.2
(1995 911 - gone)
1997 Spec Boxster - #121
2008 Subaru Outback
2008 VW Touareg 2
2010 Subaru Outback
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 11-30-2019, 06:35 PM
racer's Avatar
racer racer is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: South Riding, Va
Posts: 6,896
racer
Default

Broad spectrum of choices.. and considering the vette implies willingness for other brands.. what about BMW?

Who do you want to race with? PCA? SCCA? NASA? HSR? VSSCA?

Imho, best bang for the buck is still Spec Miata or SRF (spec race ford)

As for sub 1:22, doesn't the boy do that in his 944?
__________________
Dave
- 1970 914-6
Past
- 2000 Boxster
- 1987 944
- 1978 911 Euro SC
- 1976 914 2.0
- 1970 914 1.7 / 2056cc
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 11-30-2019, 07:39 PM
The boy's Avatar
The boy The boy is offline
 
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Frostburg
Posts: 50
The boy
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by racer View Post
Broad spectrum of choices.. and considering the vette implies willingness for other brands.. what about BMW?

Who do you want to race with? PCA? SCCA? NASA? HSR? VSSCA?

Imho, best bang for the buck is still Spec Miata or SRF (spec race ford)

As for sub 1:22, doesn't the boy do that in his 944?
why yes I do 1.22.7 to be exact.

But I agree definitely decide who you want to race with before buying anything.

Also not trying to shoot it down but I know a lot of people that spend cup car money running gtb1 cars... or that's at least how it seems.
__________________
Robbie Wilson

87 944 (the red car)
86 944 #171 ITS/SP2 racecar
2015 and 2019 944 cup world champion
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-01-2019, 02:38 PM
Goggles Paesano's Avatar
Goggles Paesano Goggles Paesano is offline
Where's the beef?
 
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: Earth
Posts: 526
Goggles Paesano
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Handlebar View Post
The green 993 is officially dead and gone.

I definitely want another caged car - DE or Racing, and prefer a prepped car to be rules compliant. I am weighing Vintage, E class, Spec Boxster, and whatever a 997/Cayman S (2009+) run in. I am even considering a C5 Vette. I am second or third in line for a GTB1 Cayman, but I expect the first guy is likely to buy it later this week.

I want to be able to run pump gas for DE (reflash/whatever), and would like to keep consumable costs a tertiary consideration, not Cup cars with $10k/100 hr rebuilds, for example. Now that I am in Red, I would like to aim for sub 1:22 capable cars - I will pass on a 944 for now - and while faster than that time is Ďnice,í it isnít absolutely required.

I am not committed to a specific class, and I am even considering a 996 GT3 with a side order of SSM.

If you know of well prepped cars that you think are worth considering, please let me know. Finding slim pickings that donít have something that is a question. Up to mid 60ís or 70, but would win major points at home for coming well below that.
Lots of drool worthy choices on www.racingjunk.com
__________________
Turning good track cars into other people's headaches since 1990

Denis Jenkins
95 M3 serial number 00067
07 Z4 Coupe
00 325i
95 318ti CS 1 of 5
71 911t
70 Karmann Ghia,

96 f350 7.3 dually.
Gone
4 356's,1 996, 4 911's, 1 912, 2 Boxster S, 5 914's, 3 944's, 2 951, 1 924S, 3 95 m3, 03 M3 (Shane's now),97M345, 84 rx7chump car, ITB gti 21, ITB GTI 48, 89 325is s52, 69 Charger General Lee, 2 66 Cadillac verts, 1 68 cadillac vert, and many many others
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-01-2019, 03:55 PM
vranko's Avatar
vranko vranko is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Mclean, VA
Posts: 2,278
vranko has one HoF thread
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by The boy View Post
:Also not trying to shoot it down but I know a lot of people that spend cup car money running gtb1 cars... or that's at least how it seems.
Yep. That's what I told him.
__________________
John V
2007 Cayman S, #444
2017 Mazda MX-5 Club
2015 Porsche Cayenne Diesel
2013 Golf R
2012 BWM x5
3 time DE Parade Lap Champion
#BestInstructorEver - Unknown
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-02-2019, 10:06 AM
N Fotouhi's Avatar
N Fotouhi N Fotouhi is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: NJ
Posts: 2,312
N Fotouhi
Default

If you want to race, go to BMW.

If you are set on Pcar, I would suggest SPC. Do a search on Rennlist. I think there were a couple of cars that if still available, could be had in the $40s.

Good Hands got out of GTB before it got too expensive, but he ran both GTB and 99x Cup and would know the cost comparison. I think these days you will need about the same running budget for GTB vs an early Cup. If I were 10 years younger and wanted to race Pcar, 996 Cup would be were I'd go between the two classes.

BUT SERIOUSLY, if you want to race, go to BMW.
__________________
Nader

There are 3 sides to every story. Mine, yours, and the truth.

91 944 S2 - Mine, Sold
914-6 Vintage racer - Mine
93 964 - Not mine
95 993 - Hers - Sold and will be missed
04 GT3 - Ours, holding out judgment
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump