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Old 01-18-2020, 04:14 PM
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Greetings all.

As my 912E is running/driving superbly (15K post restoration), and I sold my E36 M3, I've been more of an infrequent lurker.

I plan sometime this year to add either a 911 Convertible or Boxter. Planning on a post IMS issue car, but wouldn't be opposed to the RIGHT car with the IMS fix applied.

I dont change cars often, keeping them in general for 15 years or more, and am wondering about overall cost of ownership/reliability between the two models. I've driven both cars, including a 718 Boxter, but prefer the 6cyl models. The 911 is obviously a bit more substantial, better planted and more vault like, and will likely retain value better, but I really know very little about the true details of both models.

I'm aware of the advantages of the S models of both cars, but not sure how important the performance differences are for my uses as a fun fair weather daily driver (Also have a Tundra) and open air fun with modern amenities. I'm more concerned about overall robustness. In other words, do the S improvements translate to better durability, or more expensive when it comes time to replace rotors, pads, shocks/struts, etc.

Which ever car I go with, will likely have a PDK, as my 912 is manual and will satisfy that need. Goal is to be in the sub 50K price point. This will mean an older 911 VS Boxter, but as my goal is long term ownership of a car I love to drive and own and can do most of the maintenance myself. Of course, I'd love a 997 Targa, but they are still in the $100K+ range.

Appreciate your sage wisdom and input.

Here are a few recent pics of my 912E that I restored back in 2012-2016. The car is amazing.
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Of course, I'd love a 997 Targa, but they are still in the $100K+ range.

Appreciate your sage wisdom and input.

Here are a few recent pics of my 912E that I restored back in 2012-2016. The car is amazing.
Your 912E is gorgeous!!!

997 Targas are nowhere near $100k. Are you sure you didnít mean the 991 Targa?
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The brown car looks great, really nice.

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I'm more concerned about overall robustness. In other words, do the S improvements translate to better durability, or more expensive when it comes time to replace rotors, pads, shocks/struts, etc.
Marginal delta in consumable brake parts, susp.... I think a good idea is to get the car with the options you want. S is nice for more balls, and sometimes more options but the same car otherwise.
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You in the Seminary Hill area?
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Your 912E is gorgeous!!!

997 Targas are nowhere near $100k. Are you sure you didnít mean the 991 Targa?
I'm terrible with the P number designations..... I test drove a 2017 911 Targa.

Thanks, I love the 912. Rescued it from abandonment and did a complete restoration with a bunch of modifications. Did all the work myself with the exception of the heads (rebuilt by Hoffman) and the final Body & Paint (Scotty B).
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You in the Seminary Hill area?
Hollin Hills/Fort Hunt area.
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You can get a nice, low-mileage 997 (2009 -'12) for your budget. I had one for 2 years and it was dead reliable. The S is really quick, and IMHO, a bit too much for normal street driving unless you're not a lead-foot. As a non-track car, I don't think you'll notice a difference between and S and a non-S.
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I thought I would really miss my Boxster Spyder but the 981s is really a superior car in almost every way. Especially the interior styling. I test drove the 991 Cab and it's just TOO BIG and isn't really a true sports car any more. If your budget is under 50k I'd drive the 997 and the 981 (both the S and non S's) and see which you like more. If your so inclined 987 Spyders with PDK's have dipped around the 45 to 50k mark now.
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Which ever car I go with, will likely have a PDK, as my 912 is manual and will satisfy that need. Goal is to be in the sub 50K price point.
You mentioned that this car would be a long term keeper. Have you considered the price of a replacing a PDK? My limited understanding is that they are reliable but when they go it is not serviceable and you are looking at 20/25k for a replacement PDK.

Something to think about.

BTW: 912E looks great
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