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Old 11-16-2021, 09:48 PM
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Old 11-17-2021, 12:03 AM
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But the low-end torque of the 4 cylinder blows the 6 cylinder away. Makes for a great autox car.
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What have you test driven? My 981S is a really nice car and the sound the motor makes with the PSE is intoxicating. The 718 is just as quick as my car however I did missed the sound of the 6. The 718S is another level motor wise. It's way faster than my 981 with a lot more torque. I think you really need to drive them to decide for yourself.
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I recently picked up a 987.2 Cayman R for less than your budget cap. I know that in Porsche world, newer is always faster, so the 987 won't win on that dimension. This car's combination of light weight, simplicity (relative to the newer models) and looks won me over. It's a wonderfully direct car: think and it turns. Brush the gas and it accelerates.

It also helps that I've had no issues with my 997s of that generation; they've been good to me across the years and aren't too bad to work on.
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Old 11-17-2021, 05:00 PM
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I like the idea of either a Cayman R or Boxster Spyder (2011-2012 vintage?) given their performance and also "scarcity" means they will always stand out a bit

I think it comes down to how will you truly use the car. 4-5 AX a year? it won't really matter. 10-12 running with multiple clubs? you will want something that is a class leader or something that can sniff out an occasional FTD John B does quite well with his 2005 base 997 for instance so a 911 has merit, although I don't think you really want another IMS engine to worry about.

- 996TT ? may not be an autocross lion, but 420+hp might be nice on street and track

Or split the money..

Get a kick ass CP class Miata and come for FTD, then spend reasonable money for a 987.2
Or an older FRS/BRZ, build it to SCCA Spec C (?) class and go have fun there.. and still it could be a track car if the need persists..
and spend the rest on a nice 987.2

Or maybe get a used SPEC Boxster and pick up the DE / possible CR spirit. and spend the rest on well, racing stuff!

I'm on the fence about my 924S if you want to get back in cheap
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Old 11-17-2021, 05:37 PM
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Anything is possible since practicality isn't an issue. Since I'm spending your money, I'd go 987.2S or R. Or 718T.

Unless you want to go serious autox, then I'd say STR Miata. But you probably don't fit in a Miata.
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Dr. K. has made it work, but no, I don’t fit in a Miata!
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I have a base 987.2. While it may be slower in absolute terms than the S, I do not think the difference is really noticeable on the street, unless you are trying to keep up with an S.

As I have posted elsewhere, I have upgraded my suspension to R spec plus some extra goodies, so my handling and braking is at least equal to an S.

Of course, when I was out driving with two 991 Turbo S, even an S model Cayman wasn't going to keep up.

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Old 11-18-2021, 10:17 AM
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I appreciate all the comments! As Scott mentioned, I need to do some test driving. I am hoping that Toyota dealers will have some GR86s to check out by the end of the year. In the meantime, maybe I will drop by a Porsche dealer and learn what I can about a 718. According to what I see on their web sites, the local dealers don't have much in the way of 718 in stock, so that might be disappointing. I will also keep reviewing the various online car sale sites to see what comes up. The 2023 Nissan Z might be worth a look, but I don't think I will have the patience to wait for those to show up.

As per Elric42, I think a base 987.2 will make a nice AX car with the proper suspension setup. I drove the base 987 that Steve B. used to own in a couple of autocrosses, and it was loads of fun.

Is there anyone reading this that has a base 718 and is willing to take me for a ride??? I have not been in a 718 yet.
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I would echo those comments above.. base vs S. Yes, the S is "more" but how many times is 5-10% noticeable. My base boxster kept up with S boxsters of the same vintage.I imagine John Clay in his "base" 2009 cayman is as quick a many S caymans etc. But buying used, getting a 2 year older "S" for the same price as a newer base might be more appealsing based more on colors/options etc the car comes with.

I dig the 718T package, even if it only comes with the baby 2.0 / 300hp engine... cause that's still about 200hp more than my current 2.0
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