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Interesting (Durango) problem, even more interesting OBD response
My Durango has been trouble-free and great since I bought it, but the last 2 weeks have been an issue. 1 miles from my house 15 days ago, the engine began running very roughly, idle slowed down, and I had to press the gas harder to get it to keep up speed. CEL flashed on and off, then on steady but after 30 seconds the car resumed normal driving. Shut off engine and restarted, but CEL still on. Called dealer and brought it in a few hours later--CEL was off when I restarted it later. Drove fine. OBD read history, not current, misfire several cylindars. They did the 90K mile service (it was 89K, and there...) including "treatment" to remove carbon and clean the injectors (3 separate bottles of stuff--do I hear "rip-off"?). After that care driven 4 miles, 4 times, then to BWI and back, and drove perfectly. This morning it did the same thing, again 1 mile from home with a cold engine. Lasted 30-45 seconds, then fine again. Took it to the dealer, and OBD read...normal, no history of issues. We all smelled coolant, and it turns out the radiator has a leak at the top (I hope and believe this is a coincidence). So having the radiator replaced (covered by aftermarket warranty), but still have the engine missing problem.
They suggested driving it until it happened again, with an OBD hooked up - which might mean leaving it with them for a week or two and a huge bill (or they could loan it to one of their mechanics to use as a DD for a week, I suppose). I was thinking if someone would loan me/rent me an OBD reader, I could do that myself. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. I assume it's not something like a cracked head or it wouldn't get better like it has. Bad computer? Is there a way to check that? My warranty is $100 per service for whatever they fix, so I'm hoping if it IS the computer it would be covered under the same warranty repair... Peter
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Peter (not "Pete") K. 2016 Cayman S 1999 Miata ("SM") race car 2016 Toyota Highlander--tow vehicle/wife's DD 2017 VW GTI SE (DD) Gone and missed: 1992 Miata ("SSM") race car 2009 911 C2S Coupe 2004 Toyota Prius - sold to son's girlfriend 2006 Dodge Durango 2003 Acura MDX 86 Black 911 Coupe race car 86 Gold 911 Targa 82 WineRedMetallic 911 Targa |
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This doesn't make sense to me. It should retain the codes until they are manually retrieved and cleared. It doesn't matter if the CEL goes away on its own, the code is still stored in the computer, and it's there until you manually clear it. At least that's been true of all the Bosch Motronic cars I've touched.
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Surely there are forums speciailizing in the Durangos. Search for one and then do some research. I had an intermittent fuel issue on the Volvo a couple months ago that turned out to be a plastic sensor. The forums had loads of info on what the likely issue was, recommendations on where to buy the part (hint: it is ~35% of the Volvo cost if you purchase at a Land Rover dealership!), and some posts full of pics showing the replacement procedure.
Best to go to forums focusing on the type of vehicle in question whenever possible.
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Find a good.Durango.forum. Ive found solutions and great info on the MB and LandCruiser forums I use. Some.basic research should demystify your.problem.
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try moparts.com . They are a mopar forum, mostly older stuff but they should know.
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Google found these...
http://www.durangoforumz.com/ http://dodgeforum.com/forum/ http://www.durangoclub.com/forum/ What year is your Durango? What engine?
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A cheapo OBD reader is like $60. It will pay for itself in the first use.
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George - I, too, thought the code should be retained. That's why it's interesting.
I'll try a reader Yes, I'll look on the forums. Haven't had much luck there in the past. But I'll try again. Thanks, Guys! Peter
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Peter (not "Pete") K. 2016 Cayman S 1999 Miata ("SM") race car 2016 Toyota Highlander--tow vehicle/wife's DD 2017 VW GTI SE (DD) Gone and missed: 1992 Miata ("SSM") race car 2009 911 C2S Coupe 2004 Toyota Prius - sold to son's girlfriend 2006 Dodge Durango 2003 Acura MDX 86 Black 911 Coupe race car 86 Gold 911 Targa 82 WineRedMetallic 911 Targa |
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"mutiple missfire" was pulled from the original code read. not all codes lead to a single point. Might be worth going through all the conectors and checking wiring for damage. More than once I have traced odd code / no code issues to conectors or cooked / pinched wiring. No cost other than time too.
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http://vimeo.com/29896988 “Those that can make you believe in absurdities can make you commit atrocities.” Voltaire. "There is grandeur in this view of life...." Darwin. The mountains are calling and I must go. “The earth has music for those who listen” Shakespeare. You Matter. (Until you multiply yourself times the speed of light squared. Then you Energy) “We’ve got lots of theories, we just don’t have the evidence’. |
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