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Old 08-14-2012, 03:24 PM
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Never seen one. Most go with the stock trailing arms, which are pretty much bombproof, and coil over setup.
Was asking about the spring plate not the trailing arm. But I get the idea. Even a 935 spring plate (on a 911) retains the stock trailing arm.

Is this just an area where the 944 is less developed aftermarket (than a 911)? Are inner camber boxes possible on a 944 like a 911 (which don't just provide camber adj but allow raising the roll center and messing w/ anti-squat) or does something like a gas tank get in the way? Im guessing full-tube frame 944s dont keep the stock pickup points.

I always found it interesting that people shun poly bushings on the inner joint of the trailing arm because they need to twist in 2 dimensions but then do basically the same thing w/ the outer bushing.
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..... As confirmed this past weekend, the car still hauls ass under new ownership!
It was funny during one of last weekend's sessions. I was riding with John, and as the SRF went by us, I said "He used to be a 944 driver, too." And John replied, "Yeah....this was his car."
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Controlled four-wheel drifts through T10 @ SP? I just got to experience some of that action this weekend. It's like an adrenaline shot straight to the heart.

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As confirmed this past weekend, the car still hauls ass under new ownership!

It does.

It was funny to be protected by my old roll bar again as well.
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I am going to go back and say, keep it simple.

Adjustable koni's all around and learn to Drove. FWIW, i recall beating the young novice (OP) at AX in my Bone Stock (suspension, street tires) 944 by several seconds. That's an eternity on a 45-60 second course.

Spend the money on the seat time. Then some more seat time.

The more seat time you have, the more you will undestand what improvements you want to do next.

Maybe you will decide you want something quicker (S2/Turbo/Boxster/911) anyway.
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I am going to go back and say, keep it simple.

Adjustable koni's all around and learn to Drove. FWIW, i recall beating the young novice (OP) at AX in my Bone Stock (suspension, street tires) 944 by several seconds. That's an eternity on a 45-60 second course.

Spend the money on the seat time. Then some more seat time.

The more seat time you have, the more you will undestand what improvements you want to do next.

Maybe you will decide you want something quicker (S2/Turbo/Boxster/911) anyway.
Now this idea I do like. Just need a hacksaw and some guts. Have there been any stories of hacked struts failing? If I go to heavier coil overs will I need/be able to get perches?

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Take a look at Paragon Products website, or talk to Jason at Paragon.

He sells kits for exactly what you talking about, when you move to 2" or 2.5" diameter springs you need to buy new perches anyway. He sells a kit for this that makes the strut an adjustable ride height perch with a top perch to match.

Not saying he is the only one but certainly a great wealth of knowledge as he also races a 944/968 chassis.

Ground Control sells some similar kits and they are knowledgable but not nearly as specific 944 knowledge that you get from Jason.
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Jason's a great guy. Actually owns a real 968 Turbo RS.

Keep in mind that the stiffest spring you can go with on a stock strut is 250#, after which you'll need the coilover perches.

The Koni cut-n-guts are a great way to go.
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^ +2 on Jason. He knows these cars well, and has good stuff.
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^^+a gajillion Jason will not steer you wrong. Tell him what you want and he will set you up. He's actually talked me out of stuff. Very honest and stands behind everything he sells. Tell him Steve in Md sent you. I've probably made the payments on his Shelby for the last couple of years....
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Was asking about the spring plate not the trailing arm. But I get the idea. Even a 935 spring plate (on a 911) retains the stock trailing arm.

Is this just an area where the 944 is less developed aftermarket (than a 911)? Are inner camber boxes possible on a 944 like a 911 (which don't just provide camber adj but allow raising the roll center and messing w/ anti-squat) or does something like a gas tank get in the way? Im guessing full-tube frame 944s dont keep the stock pickup points.

I always found it interesting that people shun poly bushings on the inner joint of the trailing arm because they need to twist in 2 dimensions but then do basically the same thing w/ the outer bushing.
they do but to a further extent. some folks think hard plastic bushings bind, stress other parts and also fail quickly.

I have seen a few well set up 944 tubs that included changes to the inner pickup points.
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