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Old 12-02-2004, 10:57 AM
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i agree with the MGC-GT

"C" had a 6 (if i recall) and there was a 4 cylinder MGB-GT

"GT" is the hardtop version

the car could be a -B-GT with a -C-GT "bonnet"
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Old 12-02-2004, 11:32 AM
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Back in the day, nice ride... if you spoke "British", and knew the difference between + & - grounds and Wentworth hardware.
Make that Whitworth hardware...
Only Deerslayer, Chopper Dropper & maybe OldTee would know the difference anyway
Oh the stories, coasting to a stop on ’66, laying on my back to hit the electric fuel pump w/the spinner “slugging” wrench. Hours spent cleaning light contacts for VA safety inspection, tightening spokes before the next track day, trying different weight oil in the MG’s SUs, front lever dampeners and BSA forks, changing head gaskets between runs, having “special shoes” to help block the heat in summer and insulate in winter. Trying to straighten the Aluminum hood after someone tries to shut it without opening it more first (similar to a 356s), storing the “kit” soft top w/out tearing, rebuilding the generator on the Ohio Turnpike – in winter, retrieving bits and peaces in the dark after they fall off. Finding my SU tools in the basement after 25 odd years Oh ya, memories

Whitworth equipped vehicles I’ve owned:
‘62 MGA
’64 MGB
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’68 MGB (included long conversations w/FBI)
’63 Sunbeam Alpine
’58 Matchless single – off road death sled
’65 BSA Lightening – TT w/drag bars 8)
’66 BSA Lightening chopper (teardrop tank, 16” rear wheel, 21” front, megaphones, 6” over forks, chrome frame, 18” sissy bar, single & pad) 8) 8)
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Old 12-02-2004, 12:06 PM
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62 MGA
’64 MGB
‘65 MGB
’68 MGB (included long conversations w/FBI)
’63 Sunbeam Alpine
’58 Matchless single – off road death sled
’65 BSA Lightening – TT w/drag bars
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Mr. Riley: We can see that your current affliction "P-car-acquire-itis" has had a long steeped and rooted pattern of behavior from which to grow.

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Old 12-02-2004, 12:46 PM
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My sister had a MGBGT but I don't remember the hood beimg that long.
It was a 4 banger I think. Maybe a later model than that one if that's possible.

She sold it and got a black Fiat mid engine (X19? or something like that)
What a piece of junk!

My e-type was a 63 but that didn't have wentworth. It was actually nice that the tools I had actually worked. It was + ground.

Intresting find Steve. Don't see them arround much. At least not on the road.
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Old 12-02-2004, 01:24 PM
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It's time for a tiny bit of "old world" history. In the 19th Century every British factory which needed to bolt something to something else devised their own fasteners to do it. Clearly, this caused all sorts of compatibility problems. So, along came Mr. Whitworth (I forget his first name right now) who invented a standardized system of coarse threads (with 55 degree thread angle and rounded roots and crests).
Along with his threads came heads for the bolts that were based on the length *along* the side of one flat, rather than across the flats. That’s why there is no simple fractional number for the length across the flats, which is why SAE or Metric wrenches don't fit. The fractional number on English (Whitworth) wrenches refers to the diameter of the bolt (which is 1/4", 3/8" etc.); not to the distance across the flats. Some years later the Brits decided they needed a finer pitch for some applications, so another thread series was introduced (same 55 degrees). They also decided that the heads were too big for the bolts, so for most applications they switched to using the next size smaller heads. Because of this, and to add one more bit of confusion to life, one manufacturer will mark a particular spanner "3/8BS," while a different manufacturer will mark the same sized wrench "7/16W." They fit the same diameter bolt.
The first thing any fledgling Brit biker learns is that his/her bike has "Whitworth bolts." They think this is interesting, buy a set of "Whitworth wrenches," discover these wrenches fit their bolts, and believe they now know everything they need to know about British fasteners. But they would have been wrong! So what other weird and incomprehensible things have the Brits done to the fasteners (& the world)?
British Standard Whitworth (BSW)
These are the original, 19th Century, coarse-threaded industrial bolts designed to hold locomotives together. The coarse pitch are more prone to vibrating loose, so are little used on motorcycles. Except for threading into Aluminum (e.g. crankcase studs), where a coarse thread is less prone to stripping than a fine one. It turns out that, except for 1/2" (where the Brits use 12 tpi, and the Americans 13 tpi) the thread pitches are the same as for American Unified Coarse (UNC), as in Stove Bolts). However, the thread “form” is different; Whitworth = 55 degrees; UNC = 60 degrees. In spite of this, mismatched nuts and bolts mate nicely, so you're likely to find UNC bolts or studs where BSW should have been.

You are also likely to find metric or SAE bolts anywhere on anything British (empire) that you can actually put a nut on. Use new lock washers, always, or don’t & replace missing/broken parts even more often!

note: MGB & MGB-GT 4 bangers used different "bonnets"
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My ex-BIL was an old-time certified MG mechanic. Had many of these cars lying around in various states of repair/disassembly. He ran a British repair shop for years. I'll never forget that ride we took in a TVR Tuscan (nicely massaged 5.0 in a 1800lb or so car). He even was certified to work on the XJ220 (!) But I digress...

He had a perfect orange MGB-GT. Great looking little cars. I'd guess that there is a V-6 or more likely a V-8 stuffed under that bonnet! Appears to my weary eyes to add more clearance (and is that a scoop on the front)?

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Pari, I thought you said anything less than 22" without spinners was a waste?

DNWDP (Dubb Nation World Domination Plot)

Come on Ted , you should know that the standard nowadays is at least 24" with chrome spinners. The chain link license plate frame is also a necessity .
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Old 12-02-2004, 03:34 PM
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Good stuff Dave. Metric has many odd pitches and misfits too.

Tony, don't be so hard on Dave's mispelling, it is intentional as in his case it IS Wentworth.
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Way back when I was a teenager, a friend of mine got hold of his brother-in-laws MGC GT. Dirk is right, it handled like a pig but it sure could fly when you got into overdrive. We almost got it up to 140 mph on the expressway before we ran out of good highway.
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That's pretty impressive. My B w/o OD screams at ~65mph. Top speed is maybe 90. I'd never try though, too afraid a rod might come out for some air.
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