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I am planning to take my 981 on track for the first time at the July 5 Summit Point event. I did all the brake fluid flushing on my previous track cars (996, 924S, 944) and plan to flush the brake fluid myself on the 981 soon.
Is it sufficient for inspection/participation purposes to do the flush that I am able to do with a Motive Power Bleeder? Add brake fluid (I have Ate), hook up the bleeder, pump up some pressure, and go through the calipers. That is what I did with my previous cars, and I never had a problem with brakes. Or is it necessary to do something with a computer activating the ABS system, or whatever? I don't know much about that, but I have seen things online saying that a proper flush requires something along those lines.
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I flushed the brakes in my 981 Cayman the way you described for 8 years without any problems. I did use a higher temp brake fluid, which avoided any need to bleed the brakes during the day.
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Jim C. 2014 Cayman (Aka "Rubber Ducky") 1971 914 (back in the day) |
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I agree with Jim. Flush with Motive but use higher-temp fluid (I use SRF).
Peter
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SRF seems to be best at holding its wet boiling point, but its expensive. Best price i've found is on Amazon.
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FWIW, I've been using the 600 degree brake fluids (Wilwood, Motul, etc.) By bleeding the calipers before each DE weekend, for us the fluid has held up just fine over a DE weekend. Even with our AER car(s), after 8 hours of racing, we bleed the brakes each evening as a precaution, but I don't recall ever having had fluid failure happen. And I figure that after about 5 or 6 caliper bleedings, the entire system is flushed. Remember, the only fluid being stressed by the brakes is what's in the caliper. And AFAIK, the caliper fluid doesn't migrate back up into the brake lines. So once the caliper fluid is evacuated, the fluid coming in should be pretty fresh. In fact, I sometimes lament that the bled fluid I end up dumping (properly) is probably better than what's in 80% of the cars on the street. Also, I wouldn't worry about cycling the ABS system, unless there's an apparent problem with ABS braking.
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- Tony P. Currently - 1984 944 SP2 racer - 1977 911 KM Special vintage racer - 2000 Boxster S (now mine) - 1995 993 (garage queen) - 2007 Cayman S (wife's track beast) - 2017 F350 (tow monster) - 2018 Jeep Wrangler - 1982 911 Targa (resurrection in process) Gone but not forgotten - 1989 944S2 - 1979 RX7 - 1986 944 - 1991 944S2 (in car heaven...) - 2001 Chevy Suburban 2500 (FIL's beast now) - 2012 Cayman R |
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I appreciate all the input. Thanks!
I did the flush this morning. Ran nearly two liters of Ate 200 through the system. Probably overkill, but this is the first time I flushed this car, and I had two liters on hand. Maybe I will try a different brand of fluid in the future, but Ate always seemed to work for me in the past. I liked when you could alternate the blue and the gold.
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2015 Cayman GTS 2012 Mustang GT 2023 Jetta Sport 2016 F-250 Formerly owned Porsche/BMW: 1986 944 Turbo 2006 325i 2000 911 1987 924S 1999 Boxster 1986 944 |
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You still can. It's just that it's not 'street legal', just like aftermarket exhaust systems.
The main issue with it though is the blue stains everything.
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