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Old 04-11-2018, 09:12 PM
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Greetings,

I recently traded my 1985 Cab, plus a stack of dead presidents, for this 1963 356B in project status. It is possibly an Italian delivered, Super 90, but I have not ordered a COA or Kardex yet. I was hoping to get some feedback first, as this is my first 356. Fortunately, the car appears to be complete and included many new parts.

Possibly Super 90:
-No serial number or type on the engine case, but I was told by the previous owner that it was a Super 90 engine and I found a strange note in a box of parts from a previous owner to mechanic stating this. I also found a receipt for a $9k engine rebuild, complete with an 86mm big bore kit listed.
-S90 Solex Carburetors 40 PII-4
-S90 5,500 rpm redline tach
-S90 compensation spring
-Car has been painted and license plate and badge holes were filled, but I can see the 2 holes where the “90” was. 90 badge found in box of parts included.
-Correct S90 “nipple” hubcaps

Possibly Italian delivered:
-Km/h speedometer
-Period correct, plastic Italian license plate
-License plate holes match Italian license plate. No signs of any other holes.
-Fender mounted turn signals included in box of parts

Paint/body/transmission:
-The car was take apart and resprayed, but in my opinion, the color is not very true to the original Ruby Red. To me the red is too “light” or almost pink in some lights compared to the original red. The dash and interior was left unpainted/original, and clearly the paint doesn’t match. In dimmer light, light it looks more correct.
-Although the paint has zero miles on it and looks like a decent job, the color will really annoy me so I might just get it repainted. Fashion gray perhaps…
-The previous owner had new floors installed. The only area I can find that still needs attention is the rear engine shelf. A new one came with the car.
-Transmission date and type look correct. Wheels are date matched.

Any feedback is appreciated!
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:14 PM
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As found.
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Old 04-11-2018, 09:47 PM
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Cool!
Mine was Italian delivery too. Verified by finding a coin when the PO redid the interior

Wanna trade for a sport muffler
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2 fuching cool!
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FWIW the latest issue of 000 magazine has some nice photos of a Ruby Red 356. I agree the color on yours looks off.
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That looks like signal red. Ruby red was a maroon or just like the color of blood.
Most paint manufacturers had deleted the paint formula for ruby red off of their databases. Most of the time it was color-mapped or the painter gave up and shot signal red.
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Very nice congratulations!
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Nice find and congrats!

I think my 57 may be Italian as well. I do know that's where it was brought over from many years ago by a gent in the Foreign Service.

If you plan to use it.. I would not bother with a repaint. Put it together and enjoy, as they are such fun cars!

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Old 10-10-2018, 11:34 AM
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Progress update on the car:
After staring at the car for a while, I decided to strip the whole car down to bare metal using a grinder and wire wheel. It was obvious that there was loads of filler present, plus the Ruby Red paint looked too pink to me. Hitting the car with a knotted wire wheel revealed many layers of filler, primer, and paint.

I found a used Accessible Systems body dolly locally and was able to chop it down to size.

I’ve ordered from Stoddard all the sheet metal I should need. I plan on doing most, if not all of the metalwork myself or with assistance from friends. We’ll see how far we get. I have a MIG welder, but no bodywork experience. The main areas that need attention are the battery box floor, both rockers, lower section of a door, rear engine shelf, a rear longitudinal, and a few random rust holes. The floors have already been property done.

Once all the metalwork is done, I’ll have the car lightly medial blasted, as to not warp the metal, and then epoxy primed.

If anyone is local, has metalwork experience, and is willing to teach a man to fish, it would be greatly appreciated. I can pay in cases of beer.
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Old 10-10-2018, 11:51 AM
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Good on ya...and good luck...

I haven't gotten up enough nerve yet to try welding on a car...but maybe one day...look forward to watching it progress..
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