[SilverStreak]

Originally Posted by Der ABT

Hunt i still cant get over how well the SPB does at turn in when on the brakes hard, its like they just wont understeer, Chris Drakes video was very similar...expected you both to understeer like mad into one at initial turn in and the car just turns.

did you ever look to see if staying in 4th and bouncing off the revs was faster then going 5th back to 4th? that shift point SUX for you guys

Thank you guys

Turn in is fantastic on these cars. It was a little too good with the new paving. Muscle memory being what it is I found I was too aggressively turning in and correcting then understeering in 1 and 6. In T1 before I could get a bit of a 4 wheel slide for just a moment after turn in, set and back on the gas and drive it out. As you saw that does't work like it did before Too much initial turn in grip so the back gets a bit loose. That definitely got better over the course of the weekend.

5th or 4th really depends on how I get out of 10. On a good lap in the 24's I will generally have to go to 5th as I'll start hitting the limiter before the 5 marker. That makes for a busy brake zone if I'm trying to go deep. On a lap in the 25's or higher I can hold 4th until the 4 or 3.5 marker. I have the same dilemma at NJMP. I admit I am remiss in not looking very closely at the data.

[N0tt0N]

Thanks for the explanation as I was try to figure out if the car was pushing. That explains it.

You were doing just great until you got stuck behind that FoFo... Who was that guy? He suddenly woke up and disappeared.

[SilverStreak]

Nah, I backed off because when the 44 blew up and oiled the track I didn't want to be right behind it.

[ausgeflippt951]

I really like the new surface. And to those snobs who said the track was going to lose all of its character...WRONG.

Braking into T1 and T3 is now an event. Weird understeer through T1 (though I expect that will diminish as it gets rubbered in). T3 is now smooth, but T4 has a new reminder why you need to be ON THROTTLE well before apex. T5 is similar. T6 has a little more camber -- exciting since it's such an important corner. T7/8 are slipppppery, and T9 hasn't lost much drama. Without a doubt, my new favorite corner is T10 -- there's an additional 5mph, maybe more.

[forklift]

Originally Posted by ausgeflippt951

my new favorite corner is T10 -- there's an additional 5mph, maybe more.

Bummer, I'm still a bit rusty but close in most corners (faster in 9) except 10. I'm down about 2-2.5 mph which is costing me about .5 from 10 to braking for 1. Not sure what the deal is there.

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Thanks for the vids. My camera is still in my car.

[lutfy]

Originally Posted by ausgeflippt951

I really like the new surface. And to those snobs who said the track was going to lose all of its character...WRONG.

Braking into T1 and T3 is now an event. Weird understeer through T1 (though I expect that will diminish as it gets rubbered in). T3 is now smooth, but T4 has a new reminder why you need to be ON THROTTLE well before apex. T5 is similar. T6 has a little more camber -- exciting since it's such an important corner. T7/8 are slipppppery, and T9 hasn't lost much drama. Without a doubt, my new favorite corner is T10 -- there's an additional 5mph, maybe more.

Excellent observation. I agree on the weird understeer, you gotta trail brake in order to get on power hard before the apex. The weekend with PCA that was the case. I went back with NASA for the time trial event and even on a 19-25 degree day Saturday car was 2 FULL Seconds faster as more tires are getting on the surface but above all your observation (like carrying more speed, which corner is faster etc.) is exactly what I found from after event video. I think the rain washed away a bit of speed on Sunday (when with PCA).

Lutfy
Scion FRS