[HoodPin]

Originally Posted by Dr K

....and then go out on sticker Hoosiers for the races. .....

Hoosiers seem to last and perform better if you break them in properly. Best to put them on the car for a session of 5 or so laps or less; enough to get them up to temperature. And then take off the car and let set for at least 24 hours before using again.

[HoodPin]

Originally Posted by antonioconceicao

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Questions
How many races can you do with HoHos??? Have you use it them before???

My experience with Hoosiers on my 944Cup, provided they've been properly broken in via a single heat cycle and then sat for at least 24 hours, is about 8-10 cycles of very good performance. Then, though they're still pretty good, the performance starts to drop with each successive use. At about 15 or so cycles, they start feeling greazy. On my car, I've found they can still show some decent tread depth despite the fact they're not working very well anymore. The only time I've ever gotten to cord on Hoosiers is via flatspotting due to brake lockup (no ABS).

For non-race purposes, that's why I like the RA1's so much. They just seem to get better and better until you DO wear them down to the cord. Hoosiers at around 15 heat cycles are probably close to RA1's in performance.

[jerome951]

Originally Posted by AJ986S

My experience with Hoosiers on my 944Cup, provided they've been properly broken in via a single heat cycle and then sat for at least 24 hours, is about 8-10 cycles of very good performance. Then, though they're still pretty good, the performance starts to drop with each successive use. At about 15 or so cycles, they start feeling greazy. On my car, I've found they can still show some decent tread depth despite the fact they're not working very well anymore. The only time I've ever gotten to cord on Hoosiers is via flatspotting due to brake lockup (no ABS).

For non-race purposes, that's why I like the RA1's so much. They just seem to get better and better until you DO wear them down to the cord. Hoosiers at around 15 heat cycles are probably close to RA1's in performance.

My experience as well, but dear Dog, those first 2 or 3 heat cycles are magical...

[antonioconceicao]

Thanks,

15 heat cycles !!!

Originally Posted by AJ986S

My experience with Hoosiers on my 944Cup, provided they've been properly broken in via a single heat cycle and then sat for at least 24 hours, is about 8-10 cycles of very good performance. Then, though they're still pretty good, the performance starts to drop with each successive use. At about 15 or so cycles, they start feeling greazy. On my car, I've found they can still show some decent tread depth despite the fact they're not working very well anymore. The only time I've ever gotten to cord on Hoosiers is via flatspotting due to brake lockup (no ABS).

For non-race purposes, that's why I like the RA1's so much. They just seem to get better and better until you DO wear them down to the cord. Hoosiers at around 15 heat cycles are probably close to RA1's in performance.

Originally Posted by jerome951

My experience as well, but dear Dog, those first 2 or 3 heat cycles are magical...

[good hands]

Originally Posted by antonioconceicao

Questions
How many races can you do with HoHos??? Have you use it them before???

Unfortunately most people who are running at the front of the pack have new tires every race weekend and end up trying to sell 4-5 heat cycle tires or using them for DE. If you are racing on 10 heat cycle HO's you are bringing a knife to a gun fight.

[HoodPin]

Originally Posted by good hands

......If you are racing on 10 heat cycle HO's you are bringing a knife to a gun fight.

IMHO, but maybe not quite so detrimental. I'd call it more like a .22 caliber, instead of a larger caliber, to a deer hunt. It can still get the job done, just requires more effort and precision. You don't often see deer hunted by knife.

[good hands]

Originally Posted by AJ986S

IMHO, but maybe not quite so detrimental. I'd call it more like a .22 caliber, instead of a larger caliber, to a deer hunt. It can still get the job done, just requires more effort and precision. You don't often see deer hunted by knife.

Ok maybe bow and arrow ?

As you said 6-10 cycled Ho's are still way better than perfect RA'1's.

[Landjet]

Originally Posted by antonioconceicao

Thanks,

15 heat cycles !!!

Not worth it for DE's.

[Dr K]

Originally Posted by Landjet

Not worth it for DE's.

Easy to say when you have 420 horsepower and a modern suspension

[HoodPin]

Originally Posted by Dr K

Easy to say when you have 420 horsepower and a modern suspension

Now...now...Doc. Hoosiers do very little to your straight line speed (ok...maybe bit due to exit speed in some corners. ). But Larry's probably hauling around another 1,000 lbs in his car. So quit your complainin'.......AND DRIVE!