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Old 01-18-2010, 12:24 PM
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Have been running Hawk HT-10's (f&r). Need to get a new set to have for eventual replacement this year. I've been reading about the Pagid Yellow Pads on here, then looked at the price for them! Are they that much better than the Hawk Pads to justify the price and sounds like the quicker wear? Always interested in trying something different on the car if it will be noticeably better, but wondering if the pads are THAT much better.
Thanks! I have slotted zimmermans front and solid zimmerman rears.
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i use stock solid rotors f&r, but i've been on the pagid yellow train myself for a long time and don't plan on leaving anytime soon. tried hawk dtc-70 (or maybe dtc-60) and they didn't last as long as the pagids. been thinking about pagid blacks as well depending on price.

never liked the lack of initial bite with the pf97. how long do the ht-10s last you?

another thing to consider is that as you get faster and faster with your car, you are going to go through consumables faster.
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Going with PF-97s on the blue car! Used them for years, like everything about them but the dust... but then why worry about that as long as they work?
Got the $39 back rotors from Paragon too!
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i use stock solid rotors f&r, but i've been on the pagid yellow train myself for a long time and don't plan on leaving anytime soon. tried hawk dtc-70 (or maybe dtc-60) and they didn't last as long as the pagids. been thinking about pagid blacks as well depending on price.

never liked the lack of initial bite with the pf97. how long do the ht-10s last you?

another thing to consider is that as you get faster and faster with your car, you are going to go through consumables faster.
Put new pads on at The Glen last year and did 10 track days(2 were Friday track marathons(7-8 runs). Haven't pulled them yet to see where they are exactly, but want to have a new front set of something for V.I.R. Once I pull them, i'll have a better idea. Any place offer the best price that you've found?
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Going with PF-97s on the blue car! Used them for years, like everything about them but the dust... but then why worry about that as long as they work?
Got the $39 back rotors from Paragon too!
I liked the NLA PF 90s more than the PF 97s. I got a hold of some NOS PF90s last season and while they were nice, I like the HT-10s even better. The dust is totally benign and they work very nicely for me on both my cars and on the others cars I have tried them on including E30 and E46 bimmers. Nice bite and they are easy to be smooth getting off the brakes. From best to worst for me:

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I liked the NLA PF 90s more than the PF 97s.
I liked them a LOT! But it's been long enough I finally got over it
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Anyone try the PF01's yet ?
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Anyone try the PF01's yet ?
do they make them in the smaller sizes now? i think Rob had used them on his 996 GT3. i'd be curious to try them out if they make them in the right size for my car.
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The Pagid Yellows are great, mainly because they are very easy on the rotors. They have pretty good initial bite, but not as much as the RS14 Black. They are more expensive than some of the other alternatives. I have used the HT10 and like them as well. Great pad at a reasonable price. I also liked the PF90 and used them in the past. Haven't tried the PF97 yet. The PF97 works well on ABS equipped cars from what I have read.
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do they make them in the smaller sizes now? i think Rob had used them on his 996 GT3. i'd be curious to try them out if they make them in the right size for my car.
They now make them for my fronts. Not sure about other sizes.
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