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Old 09-01-2009, 03:13 PM
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Audi, Mercedes and Volvo all used 5 cylinder diesels...

Someone mentioned that "parts would be hard to find".. why? You can still find 356 parts 40+ years after they stopped being made. IIRC, a manufacturer is required to ensure parts are available for up to 7 years after production ceases. If the Cayenne/Panemera go away after 2016 (which I think would be odd) then parts are good till at least 2020-2023. By then won't all our cars, if they are still allowed, be electric?
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Back when Porsche was working the RS4, they were also doing Mercedes 500E/E500s - 5l v8s being dropped into the E-Class sedan. Then again, they were also on the phone with Toyota about how to change from becoming a "warehouse of parts" to a modern factory
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5 cylinder? Copied from Volvo...?
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I think they both started using 5-cyl design around the same time, early 80's. Completely different blocks though, developed independently.
Earlier than that if I recall. In 1931 an Englishman named Foden employed an existing Gardener five-cylinder diesel in a flatbed lorry. Lots say the odd numbered engines are better in many ways. GM is developing a new 3 cyl turbo now.
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Lots say the odd numbered engines are better in many ways. GM is developing a new 3 cyl turbo now.
One 'con' is they tend to be less smooth. I know that is the case with the 2.5L 5-cyl in my Volvo when compared to many modern 4 and 6 cylinder motors.
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porsche hasn't made anything exciting since they made 356 longhood midyears
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Back when Porsche was working the RS4, they were also doing Mercedes 500E/E500s - 5l v8s being dropped into the E-Class sedan. Then again, they were also on the phone with Toyota about how to change from becoming a "warehouse of parts" to a modern factory
Don't forget they also helped Harley Davidson rise out their air-cooled dementia....
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Don't forget they also helped Harley Davidson rise out their air-cooled dementia....
Bull Site, HD hired them to do a design job for them just like VW and PIC have! Often easier to outsource special projects than develop in house expertise! HD only made the one WCV2. U-no NASA doesn’t actually build rockets
Maybe HD will make a mini van, or riding mower. After all they used to make golf carts and mail trucks
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Bull Site, HD hired them to do a design job for them just like VW and PIC have! Often easier to outsource special projects than develop in house expertise! HD only made the one WCV2. U-no NASA doesn’t actually build rockets
Maybe HD will make a mini van, or riding mower. After all they used to make golf carts and mail trucks
But, if they built a riding mower, it would be less reliable then a Murray, weigh more than a Pinto and would have a interesting knock, I mean timing condition.
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Sadly, no. I've got a bunch of pics of one I saw in the UK. Bad-ass wagon. 315 hp, 6 speed manual, 4-piston brembo's all around, and Recaro seats. Even had 964 wheels and side mirrors. I bet that makes a sweet daily driver.
anything like this?
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