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Just got a crazy-expensive estimate from a fairly-well regarded shop in Lorton/Springfield that sez I need:
a new compressor; expansion va; temp switch; relay (and bracket); A/C condensor; A/C condensor BL (what the **ll is a BL?); relay, and freon (1 1lb). Sez there is a active leak at expansion valve; slight leak at A/C compressor; and leak at rear A/C condensor (front condensor blower is seized). All this fun and I get to pay 'em $2629.75 ON TOP of the 300+ that I already paid to convert the whole dealie to R132......H'mmm. Time to turn up the Twin 55's! Thoughts??
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Tom Coyle 2008 Carrera S- Cobalt Blue - Sand Leather interior, Nav, 19 wheels and "Better Bose" -quiet BUT Uber-fast! ...~Always Faithful 2012 Equinox- all the bells and whistles for the Boss |
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Yup, 255 a/c is pretty much what I use. Its a targa, you can take off the top as well.
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It is what it is! Without a break down by item hard to judge. Old system, sitting a long time without use...
Could always call dealer / parts and ask for priced from them. Or do interwebs search for aftermarket prices. If it is being changed over why freon??
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David I hope to arrive to my death, late, in love, and a little drunk! Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand... Homer Simpson "That's what's keeping me out of F1.... Too much mental maturity...." N0tt0n Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go. CHAOS, PANIC, AND DISORDER my work here is done... Live without pretending, Love without depending, Listen without defending, Speak without offending |
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Fully charged, my '86 Targa blew 55 degrees which only cooled the car adequately if the outside temp was <85 degrees (after conversion to R134a). I cannot see paying $2600 for that, esp. with a Targa. I've since removed my A/C system completely, and appreciate the lighter car... Not so great driving to the track if it's hot out, though, esp. if also raining.
How about buying 2 CoolShirts and 1 kit. About $500, and the $2100 left over will buy LOTS of ice
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Peter (not "Pete") K. 2026 Lucid Gravity Grand Touring (EV Tow Vehicle) 1997 Spec Boxster #671 2016 Cayman S 2016 Toyota Highlander--wife's DD 2017 VW GTI SE (DD) Gone and missed: 2003 Miata ("SM") race car 1992 Miata ("SSM") race car 2009 911 C2S Coupe 2004 Toyota Prius - sold to son's girlfriend 2006 Dodge Durango 2003 Acura MDX 86 Black 911 Coupe race car 86 Gold 911 Targa 82 WineRedMetallic 911 Targa |
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I've had luck buying reconditioned a/c parts from Hancock Industries, Abilene, TX. A company called Griffiths seems to specialize in rebuilt Porsche a/c components. I had good experience with them with a rebuilt steering rack.
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Richard Curtis Fairfax Station, Va. '93 911 C2 |
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Hi Tom,
Warning: I don't really know what I'm talking about, I only have opinions I enjoy sharing. $2600 is a lot of money. If you are willing to do some work on your own, you can save some serious cash. Mechanically, it is my opinion that there are only a few steps in the process that require professional tools and expertise (vacuum empty the system and initial fill). Electrical stuff is more challenging, but the rest you can do yourself, if inclined. I would recommend an iterative approach, fixing the big problems first then working on the smaller ones until you are satisfied. Buy a condenser fan used on Pelican or fix the one you have (don't even need the system drained for that). If you can hold out until the temperature drops, I'd leave the system depressurized, replace the expansion valve with a new one, replace or rebuild the compressor myself, and fix any obvious issues. Have a shop vacuum and charge the system up and give it a shot. I have an '89 coupe that has been converted to R-134a, with a minor leak somewhere in the system that I am living with in the short term. In the long term, I plan on finding and fixing the leak(s). I will be rebuilding the compressor this winter ($40 kit) and replacing the drier (another $40), then have the system refilled at a shop. In the meantime, since this refrigerant is available over the counter, I can recharge the system myself as the need arises. A can of refrigerant is 12.99, and the recharge process takes only a few minutes once you learn how to do it safely. This approach doesn't last forever, as the system will eventually have enough air and non-condensable gases in it to stop working efficiently. Take a look at the work people have done on the Pelican site. - Derrick
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Derrick B. Ex. 89, 96 and 85 911's. |
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You might consider changing to non-porous A/C lines if you insist on keeping A/C.
Derrick: how well does your A/C work when it's 90 degrees out?
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Peter (not "Pete") K. 2026 Lucid Gravity Grand Touring (EV Tow Vehicle) 1997 Spec Boxster #671 2016 Cayman S 2016 Toyota Highlander--wife's DD 2017 VW GTI SE (DD) Gone and missed: 2003 Miata ("SM") race car 1992 Miata ("SSM") race car 2009 911 C2S Coupe 2004 Toyota Prius - sold to son's girlfriend 2006 Dodge Durango 2003 Acura MDX 86 Black 911 Coupe race car 86 Gold 911 Targa 82 WineRedMetallic 911 Targa |
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These might help ...
http://griffiths.com/ http://www.rennaire.com/ *I've used Griffiths a few times for BMW steering racks and other stuff. Great to deal with and was the right part on time ... no games. |
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Many thanks to ea. of you- I feel I am "not alone", as it were, in this 911 obsession I seem to have. Main reason to get the A/C goin' was in the event of rain, etc. need a way to keep inside of windshield free of fog (last week I blew out the 22yr old fan (fresh air) motor....abt 5-600 beans to fix...
Thanks again all! Twin 55's it is (for now)..................
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Tom Coyle 2008 Carrera S- Cobalt Blue - Sand Leather interior, Nav, 19 wheels and "Better Bose" -quiet BUT Uber-fast! ...~Always Faithful 2012 Equinox- all the bells and whistles for the Boss |
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Ouch. Most racers throw them away...
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Stephen www.salazar-racing.com 1970 914/6 - 3.0L GT 1983 911SC - 3.32L IROC 1984 930 - 3.6L dirt bikes (some gas, some electric), Sherco trials bike Sold: 2001 Boxster (hers), 2003 996tt x50 |
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