[markwemple]

You should talk, Rick!

[Rick V]

Originally Posted by markwemple

You should talk, Rick!

Just because my son is almost as old as BB.........................

[BeerBurner]

Hey, I gotta make sure that someone will be paying to put me in a quality old folks home, rather than the budget one!

BB.

[Dave L.]

By the time Volvo was building the 850 they had split production between Sweden and Belgium if I recall. The 850's were mostly built at former DAF factories. If you're not familiar with DAF, they made well respected trucks and a very idiosynchratic automatic transmission car (very small and not much loved outside the purple bouffant brigade.) 240, 740 and 760 production continued solely in Sweden built by the small team method pioneered at Volvo. If my memory is faulty- oop! R/Dave L.

[Eli]

94 850 with 190K+ on the clock. Went from being my wife's college car to my perfect beater

[racer]

Basic difference: 740 is rear wheel drive and a perfect sleeper shell for a Ford V-8 conversion. Basic 740s were underpowered, like most volvos and therefore fairly bulletproof. The 850 is FWD and when boosted (I think they called it the T5 - 250hp) torque steer shows up.

[Cliff Claven]

Originally Posted by Rick V

Also don't buy any of the front wheel drive Volvos. None of them are on the top 10 safest cars list.

Whose list?? I've got an 03 S60 (with zero options) and it's the most reliable car I've owned. And based on how it rides and handles, Airbags everywhere, seating postition, and general sturdiness, it sure seems pretty damn safe.

I agree the old 7 series were tanks. It just seems there is no way that an old 7 today is going to be more reliable or safer than a new Volvo (with zero options).

[markwemple]

The 2 series was safer than the 7. Funny thing was the ad where they parked a truck on the top. They got in trouble 'cause they reinforced the roof to do it, then someone did it w/o the reinforcement and it still held. If safety is paramount, VW/Audi has been on top of the overall for years now.

[markwemple]

Originally Posted by Rick V

Just because my son is almost as old as BB.........................

And you were a kid when you had him. Heck, you're still a kid!!

[BlackTalon]

Originally Posted by markwemple

If safety is paramount, VW/Audi has been on top of the overall for years now.

Sure -- it's hard to get into a wreck if your car is sidelined with electrical issues all the time!