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Interesting article about the case for electronic nannies at track days - especially for newbies

http://www.motoringweekly.com.au/201...t-a-track-day/
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He makes a lot of good points.
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He makes a lot of good points.
I agree. I think the big one is about the ego component. Its so important for drovers to put that aside and focus on the learning from a blank slate mindset..
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I agree. I think the big one is about the ego component. Its so important for drovers to put that aside and focus on the learning from a blank slate mindset..
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"I really think that both of Jack Baruth’s articles should be compulsory reading for all drivers who want to drive fast – or think they do. They were a timely reminder that we humans are all fallible and that modern machines are clever enough to help us when we run out of talent." as Talon and me are as near perfect as perfect can be!!! !!!
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Though not sure about;
"I really think that both of Jack Baruth’s articles should be compulsory reading for all drivers who want to drive fast – or think they do. They were a timely reminder that we humans are all fallible and that modern machines are clever enough to help us when we run out of talent." as Talon and me are as near perfect as perfect can be!!! !!!
"nearly" isnt quite there
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FWIW, I turn my PSM off for autocross runs. Autocross is a place where I sometimes want to play with my rear end (no comments please!), and the PSM Nanny gets in the way. Worst-case-scenario is pretty much hitting some cones.

On the track, PSM stays on!
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It's alot like a car with street tires vs slicks. You can't drive faster than the tires allow. The more you push it the slower you go. You have to listen to the car and then adjust to make it work....

Call it driving around or driving to the nannies......
I've been in cars where I like it and where it hinders the driving style.....you can adjust...
With tires these days I think some nannies on street cars calibrated for street tires can't keep up with the available grip from slicks and can intrude but I'd much rather have them when they are needed...great example of street abs...vs motorsport abs.....or race cars with traction control buttons the driver can adjust to allow more slip angle......though it can backfire as well
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With tires these days I think some nannies on street cars calibrated for street tires can't keep up with the available grip from slicks and can intrude
Yep. My car is dangerous with the nannies on (PSM on or off). I run with the yaw sensor disabled all the time now. I "attempted" to enabled it at the last event when the track was damp and it was raining lightly. I was on fairly worn NT01s. On one of the last laps, while moving my braking point a little deeper, I encountered a serious ice pedal. I wasn't able to start slowing the car down until near the last brake marker . I started looking down the skidpad road thinking I would need to use it but I was able to get the car slowed and turned just in time (and subsequently got black flagged for not coming in after a 4 off). Nannies are great when the tires, brakes, etc. are to OEM spec. Not go great otherwise.
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You can't drive faster than the tires allow. The more you push it the slower you go. You have to listen to the car and then adjust to make it work....
I can attest to that. I wore out my PS2s a year or so ago and couldn't get Super Sports at the time so I substituted a tire that was rated "almost as good." It wasn't.

As hard as I tried I couldn't improve on what I did on the PS2s, although I had several more days on the same track. So, I decided to back off a bit and wait until I wear the new tires out. Funny thing is I'm not really any slower most laps than when i was really trying hard.

This is not to say I can't improve my own driving, just that the tires only give you so much.
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