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Old 11-13-2006, 11:26 PM
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Any chance this is going to be seen by someone who can help? Links to your RennList posts showing the ’77 tub after the “treatment.” Or was it somewhere else
yeah, that's another one
Hereyagobuddy. http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforum...eferrerid=4104

Todd you said I was going to go to hell if I cut the 77 up. Well, where you staying when you get there? Is there a barresters wing? If so is it near the shyster shoddy mechanics building? I'll bring the ice...first I toasted it now I added the cheese, Swiss cheese

Almost done cutting. Found that carving the metal away with the Plasma cutter and then going after the spot welds is the easy way. I wil go over everything after the cutting and spot weld drilling is done and clean things up. If you do it right there is no sign left that something was there and Porsche loved to spot weld little brackets and bendy hold down tabs everywhere. Then the top side seam welding is next and then its time to break out the tubing bender and gain all the weight back and then some.

The sunroof/roof complex, even after all the removable parts are gone, is HEAVY! without question the heaviest single part removed. Rear fenders weigh nothing. I have a big can and pile of scrap tin that I will weigh after the cuting is done.
I have had some requests to start a ongoinng thread on this build and plan to pick the Rennlist brain now and then. Rather than poping in with funnyfotos now and then should I start a local thread? Worth the time or is it just boring "look at me" stuff? Was not planning to but keep getting Hows the build going?

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Old 11-14-2006, 08:21 AM
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I would appreciate seeing regular updates, Kurt. A rare project for the DIY crowd. Professionals probably see it all the time, but not us amateur guys. Where did you get the specs for the front towers attachment boxing work? What's your reference point for the angles?
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You got my vote for a "adding lightness from the ground up" thread here on d-fus.

Might not be of interest to the concours or w(h)ine & cheese crowd but most here are track rats ... as you know ... and would be interested and possibly have suggestions ... if you were open to them

Would certainly NOT be viewed as a "hey look at me" thread by this racer.
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Would certainly NOT be viewed as a "hey look at me" thread by this racer.
just don't put a "914" in the title otherwise no one will view it
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Agree w/ Kevin and Jason -- please keep us updated here at Dorkiphus
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Jase, I will ask the powers that be to move this to another thread and go from there. I allways look for insght and tips and think of them as help in the best way. Smart man learns from his mistakes wise man learns from the mistakes made by others. A dumbass like me fakes it to look like the wise guy. There are already about 5 big and 20 small things that I will do dif the next time.

Kevin. I read the instructions and looked at the purty pictures that came with the premade towers. Next time I will just purchase the camber plates and make my own towers. 11 deg lean in towards center 6 deg rake back front to back. I used the original 3 holes where the old struts bolted in and went from there. Measured using a good magnetic protractor and tape from the front to the bolts as I went. The tub was set dead level so angles were set from earth as a ref point. Marked and cut a little small and feathered to fit with a 40 grit blending wheel. One has a little bit of runout but is well in the range of the camber plates that go on top. Am all pissed about it but also expect to set the front susp once make my marks and never think of it again.
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I read the instructions and looked at the purty pictures that came with the premade towers. Next time I will just purchase the camber plates and make my own towers. 11 deg lean in towards center 6 deg rake back front to back. I used the original 3 holes where the old struts bolted in and went from there. Measured using a good magnetic protractor and tape from the front to the bolts as I went. The tub was set dead level so angles were set from earth as a ref point.
The tower mounting work looks good and strong. Just the trial and error to get to an ideal mounting point tilt and rake angle has to be worth the cost of the kit. At some point I'm sure you plan on bracing and triangulating the towers. Will the cage be involved in that bracing as well?
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The tower mounting work looks good and strong. Just the trial and error to get to an ideal mounting point tilt and rake angle has to be worth the cost of the kit. At some point I'm sure you plan on bracing and triangulating the towers. Will the cage be involved in that bracing as well?
Oh yes, there will be much bracing. Cage will be to PCA CR code with some nod to SCCA on stuff such as size of base plates and the like. SCCA has a tight set of rules and I will follow thwem so long as they dfon't add weight without reason. any that is not required to be 1.5/.095 or to keep me from getting hurt will get progressivly smaller or be made from boxed sheet.

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I'm finding I have an admittedly perverse desire to run my hands all over that naked tub. I could even just stand there and ogle for hours.

Sick, no?
Not sick at all, in fact feel free to do so, I will give you some sand paper as well.

It is real cool to see how the thing was put together and it is far more obvious when all is exposed than when in paint. This stamping got spot wellded to that one then the sub assembly was spot welded to some other sub assembly then all was presented and spot welded in. That kinda stuff. Real rough welding in many places you can tell where it was done by hand or not. I think much of the spot work was by hand as it is very uneven in aplication on places.
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*Poof* New thread. Keep up updates, Kurt, this looks like a great project to watch.
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DITTO! KEEP EM COMMING!
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