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Too bad. it has a high stopping power with low wall or second impact penetration factor. A "Safe round" You don't always need deep penetration if you have a good power factor. Cost of a true defence round is not to be considered as you don't use them for target. $10,000 per round would be chump change in a true defence round with the legal aspects included. You will be looking at far more than that after you shoot someone regardless of circumstance. Me? I only want one story to be told first person, mine. That said even with a supply of LEO only 9mm 40,000 cup p+p hydroshok in hand which as a hard hitting somewhat shallow round for the caliber My home round is standard Federal .45ACP Hydroshok in a Glock 21. Big, fat, slow, less likely to wander off after missing the intended target but a lot of energy when it hits the intended target.