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Old 04-09-2012, 09:46 PM
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Originally Posted by GT3 View Post
Draw the line? Well, this is all unsafe driving around a track with other cars at high speeds. This is really dangerous stuff.

Seriously, treat us like adults. We seem to manage in the real world without someone holding our hands and hovering over us. We know our cars and we know what will work for us in our cars. And we are responsible adults.

Yes, the newbies need more supervision and strict rules. Red group has been around tracks long enough to be responsible and make adult decisions.

Tech cannot be the answer. Too much too check, too many cars.

Responsible, experienced, adult driver decision making is the answer. Ease up on the nanny stuff for the RED run group.

FWIW - every other PCA DE I have attended, the RED group has its own meeting - whether instructor or not - that is separate from the other big drivers meeting.

And finally while I am on a roll, instructors self-tech but there are those in RED group with way more track experience than some of the instructors... if you made it to the RED run group already...? just sayin'

Flame away.
I'm actually more of a messenger on this. The club has had a policy, and we are tasked with enforcing it. I volunteered to help run Tech, and by doing so assumed responsibility for making sure drivers comply with the requirements.

But with that said, being in Red Group really does not mean that you are some sort of a God. Has your car never broken? Have you never done anything that resulted in it breaking? And besides it being a safety concern, it fuchs up everyone else in the run group when a car breaks on the track. And sometimes those same people bitch when there are only three run groups a day instead of four, as they loose too much time when a car breaks or there is a big off

I will say this about PCAP's Red Group -- it does largely police itself. There is a tolerance there for behavior/ actions that would get a driver in a lot more trouble in lower run groups. But that is largely because the other drivers are experienced enough to react well in those brief emergency situations.

Sorry you feel like this is a personal attack on you, because for it is not. In fact, the issue came up in the Green Group. But your recent videos had a few people asking offline about the safety considerations. Don't worry though, I told them as a highly-skilled Red Group driver you will never run off the track, spin, etc.
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