911 Ball joint nut socket
 

Folks,

I need to borrow one of these bad boys to remove the bent up a-arm and wounded ball joint. I can pick up locally if needed.

Thanks,

Pete

Most people would rather you not use their good socket to remove old crappy ball joint nuts. It’s a long way but I have one you can use to tighten the new one and a chisel to break the old one loose..

The ball joint NUT is fine, not even rusty!

I have one but a little far from you. Cheaper to go to local discount autoparts store and get a 4wd axle socket for $12. That's what I have!

Zipped it right off with impact wrench. No problem!

If this is the case, then I'd do what Bill suggests - get the 4x4 socket. If they are 20yrs old and all gummed up with crap, the only alternative is to cut them off.

another method that I have had work 100% regardless of ring nut condidton.

Heat the ball joint ring nut with a common $3 propane torch, soak with some liquid wrench, reheat and then tap it off with a real dull or flattend chisel held in line with rotation. Unless the ring nuts are real rusty or have suffered a ham fisted hammer attack you can remove them without any denting or damage. If they are real bad you might need to re heat and re soak a time or two. This takes about 5 min each side. The Porsche tool will survive a removal or two before the tang edges start to dull and it will start slippping. The 4x4 tool is a true good inexpensive alt but the torch and chisel is even cheaper is usefull elsewhere and will also work on the really bad or chewed up ones.

Sounds like this would render the ball joint unusable afterward, no? Heat + grease + rubber and all...

Thanks guys, I knew I would get a solution I like (4X4 adapter or heat and banging). The ball joint is no good since the a-arm is bent right where it attaches although the nut looks pretty good. The boot is shredded so I ordered a new ball joint to go with my new to me a-arm with new bushings.

Ball joint comes through just fine unlike cutting the ring off. Put heat on the ring only and just to expand it some. You don't need to cook it red hot or anything close. I can touch the ring nut after heating and the joint is not smoking other than the L.R. that is all over the nut. I use the L.R. smoke to let me know the ring is "done" and ready to knock loose.

I know that this is contrary to what others like and does not involve any sexy power tools bangin' or cuttin' away. It just boring low tech works.

Saw a good trick today. Neat way to pull a tye rod end out of the "eye" on the knuckle. Use a puller or pickle fork? Nope. Little bit of heat and a rap, not a beating, just a nice sharp rap on the side of the "Eye" pops the two apart. Nice as can be and worked every time. Clean and no pickle fork cuts on the tye rod ball joint. I had to see it to believe it. This guy been doing it this way for years with no problems and on all kinds of cars in including P cars. Seems you can leave the heat part out and it will still work too.

Kurt, you are right on the money!
I love these mechanical tricks of the trade. Old school, new school I don't care!

I have and have seen others try the tie rod removal technique without result. Can you clarify exactly what he did? I want to try it next time and save a few rubbers!

Heat it like you mentioned on the ball joint nut?
Is there a sweet spot that you hit?
What size hammer?
Do you put a heavy hammer on the opposite side to oppose the impact?


Thanks for passing along the wisdom!

Maybe we need a thread on Simple, but effective methods instead of cool tools. I love cool tools, but would rather learn the simple stuff!