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ausgeflippt951 11-07-2017 09:03 AM

Were there really that many more 993s?
 
So, Anisa and I have decided to buy either a 964 or 993 (so if you have a lead on one, especially one that's DE prepped, let me know).

I'm finding that 964 C2's are incredibly hard to come by, in comparison to 993 C2s, which are about 5x more plentiful on the interwebs. Have Charlie and Omar (and the rest of the PCA racing community) scooped them all up? Or were there just not that many to begin with?

Too bad we don't want a C2 Cabrio...now those suckers are a dime a dozen.

Der ABT 11-07-2017 09:17 AM

Hard part is they were not mass produced like we are used to today
Here is what I found on rennlist after we got ours but there was alot of arguments over the numbers

993 coupe 14541
993 cab 7730
993 Targa 4583
993 C4 coupe 2884
993 C4 cab 1284
993 S coupe 3714
993 C4S coupe 6948
993 Turbo 5978
993 Turbo S 345
993 GT2 172
993 GT2 EVO 21
993 RS 1014
993 GT1 road version 2
Worldwide total 49216

1994:
14 Carrera coupe
3 Carrera Cab
Total = 17 (note: These were probably press cars since there wasn't a 1994 993 in the U.S.)

1995:
3,540 Carrera Coupe
539 Carrera 4 Coupe
3,200 Carrera Cab
458 Carrera 4 Cab
Total=7,737

1996
2,109 Carrera Coupe
411 Carrera 4 Coupe
1,091 Carrera 4S Coupe
2,092 Carrera Cab
1,297 Turbo
484 Carrera Targa
Total=7,484

1997
1,286 Carrera Coupe
1 Carrera 4 Coupe
759 Carrera S Coupe
937 4S Coupe
1,849 Carrera Cab
612 Turbo
176 Turbo S
567 Carrera Targa
Total=6,187

1998
1,292 Carrera Coupe
1,059 Carrera Cab
143 Carrera 4 Cab
122 Carrera Targa
Total=2,616

Total 993 models brought into the U.S.= 24,041 (officially)

C2 S is what we started looking for before the prices went crazy....now they are fetchin really strong numbers (were in the 40s 2 years ago)

Being the last of the air cooled, and the fact that many were not treated so well when Porsche prices were relatively cheap.....a good example is getting harder to find, somehow Omar still finds em but if you ask him I'm sure he will say it's not easy.


Targa....lots of issues with the tops and really expensive to fix.
Cab.....no interest so ?
C4 easier to find
C4s still slightly easier to find and look great.
Turbo.....forgettabout it.

And I believe it's 95 and 96 have the non vario ram engine...which is easier to tune

Great cars.....except the stupid security system for starting them

VaSteve 11-07-2017 09:18 AM

I know of a nice 993 with a road illegal motor and a lot of RS parts. Happy to make the introduction and collect my finder's fee.

Vicegrip 11-07-2017 09:24 AM

I know of a nice 993 motor in a road illegal full coil over converted track car......:lol:

ausgeflippt951 11-07-2017 10:34 AM

Yeah, curious how many 964s there are. I have no plans on racing a 964, so I'm struggling to see what the advantage of DE'ing a 964 over a 993 would be, especially since it would also be my DD. 993 has a better suspension geometry, motor, AC, etc.


Quote:

Originally Posted by VaSteve (Post 595822)
I know of a nice 993 with a road illegal motor and a lot of RS parts. Happy to make the introduction and collect my finder's fee.

Define "road illegal"? Oh yeah, we would have to pass emissions, wouldn't we...

Definitely interested though. Can you shoot me an email? gcmechler (at) gmail.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by Vicegrip (Post 595823)
I know of a nice 993 motor in a road illegal full coil over converted track car......:lol:

Because it's you, I'm interested. How far from being street legal is it? But also knowing you, it's probably a *bit* more extreme than we're looking for...

Vicegrip 11-07-2017 10:45 AM

1.2 light years from street legal.

zygomatic 11-07-2017 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der ABT (Post 595821)
Total 993 models brought into the U.S.= 24,041 (officially)


In contrast there were roughly half the number of 964s imported to the US:

Year - Type - Build Qty
1989 Coupe 1,117

1990 Coupe 1,317
1990 Targa 158
1990 Cab 673

1991 Coupe 1,608
1991 Targa 746
1991 Cab 2,207

1992 Coupe 715
1992 Targa 211
1992 Cab 992
1992 RSA 298

1993 Coupe 520
1993 Targa 137
1993 Cab 600
1993 RSA 450

1994 Coupe 456
1994 Cab 283
1994 RSA 144
1994 Speedster 469

Total USA units: 13,101

}{arlequin 11-07-2017 11:07 AM

nobody looking into canadian models?

blipshift 11-07-2017 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Der ABT (Post 595821)
993 GT1 road version 2

Pretty cool car btw

http://www.carscoops.com/2017/01/str...1-is-true.html

Patrick3000 11-07-2017 11:24 AM

Here you go:

https://delaware.porschedealer.com/e...ory_id=1124951


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