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mbar 02-15-2017 03:23 PM

HANS device for 3 point belt
 
Hi Guys,
I participate in 4-6 HPDE weekend per year with my almost bone stock car. I was wondering :
1. Did anybody experience / try The Simpson Hybrid S (formerly Head and Neck) for 3 point belts?
2. Simpson claims that this is the only device tested for 3 point belts. I was wondering if this is a marketing "trick" to direct you towards the Hybrid S($1,100) vs the cheaper version Hybrid Spot ($599) ?

Links for both:
http://simpsonraceproducts.com/hybri...lt-compatible/

http://simpsonraceproducts.com/hybrid/hybrid-sport/


Thanks for your help

ausgeflippt951 03-24-2017 12:26 PM

I would recommend giving OG Racing a call.

Long-and-short is that a true HANS (brand name) is not certified with 3 points. Other H&N restraints (like the Simpson) may certify since they strap to your body. Seems to be better than normal but even Simpson will recommend running with belts.

BlackTalon 03-24-2017 12:42 PM

Welcome, stranger. (how about an intro?)

Suggest you spend a few minutes searching Dorki, as there have been multiple threads the last few years about the Simpson.

mbar 03-24-2017 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ausgeflippt951 (Post 580004)
I would recommend giving OG Racing a call.

Long-and-short is that a true HANS (brand name) is not certified with 3 points. Other H&N restraints (like the Simpson) may certify since they strap to your body. Seems to be better than normal but even Simpson will recommend running with belts.

Thanks for the reply :)
I wonder why more instructors do not opt for that option driving in a student stock car?

Vicegrip 03-24-2017 02:25 PM

Likely due to the lack of BSF stats with 3 point systems

Chopper Dropper 03-24-2017 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbar (Post 580010)
Thanks for the reply :)
I wonder why more instructors do not opt for that option driving in a student stock car?

What you want more Instructors to have a HANS as well as a Hybrid? We as Instructors don't get paid that much, without the usual well it's your neck/head etc.
Dirk

mbar 03-24-2017 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chopper Dropper (Post 580022)
What you want more Instructors to have a HANS as well as a Hybrid? We as Instructors don't get paid that much, without the usual well it's your neck/head etc.
Dirk

What I meant to say is, that I wonder why we don't see more instructors using a 3 point belt Hybrid for themselves (in their own car + student's car).

Chopper Dropper 03-24-2017 03:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbar (Post 580023)
What I meant to say is, that I wonder why we don't see more instructors using a 3 point belt Hybrid for themselves (in their own car + student's car).

Guess most Instructors if they have harnesses prefer a "proper" HANS. I only recall seeing one Potomac Instructor with the Hybrid.
Dirk

mbar 03-24-2017 03:22 PM

Thanks for your help today :grin:

JoeG 03-27-2017 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mbar (Post 580023)
What I meant to say is, that I wonder why we don't see more instructors using a 3 point belt Hybrid for themselves (in their own car + student's car).

If I was an instructor in a stock car with 3 point belt I would invest in a Simpson HYBRID S - FIA AND 3-POINT BELT COMPATIBLE head and neck restraint after seeing this webinar:

https://youtu.be/30mjEbQ7RbY

I'll be moving to a 6-point harness and decided to go with the Simpson Hybrid Pro vs a HANS for various reasons (no chance of the belt sliding off the HANS, works to some degree on lateral movement and less pressure on the shoulder).

Here is a good video comparing the Hybrid and HANs.

https://youtu.be/WiJgFlQrYhE

I'm novice I suggest doing your own research and take advice from experienced drivers.


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