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getting passed in turn 10 by a white/red 997 GT3RS on the first lap of the session. This was Saturday while driving in the Red Group.

OK, 77 views so far and no comments?

Patrick:

I'm sure it was different in person but ... doesn't look like the 997 did anything but move back left after passing you to get the best angle on T10 ... slow a little and and then go for the apex.

Did he/she "have" to move left"? probably not, but I'm guessing they thought had more room on you to do so.

Could their 997 have made the corner running the inside of T10 (without moving left) = probably... but maybe the drover didn't think so ... or know so ... or that car was new to them, or ... etc...

It didn't appear that you had to "slam" on the brakes, just slow a little for a faster car that could have carried more speed through the corner ... whether they knew it or not.

Did you go talk to them before posting this? What did they have to say?

My $0.02, which isn't worth much.

Cheers.

I had a similar experience at T1. I wasn't expecting the move and thus was a bit surprised. But the car was moving faster and it turned out to be no problem whatsoever. We both made the corner on line at normal pace.

x2. Didn't appear to be a major infraction. Though the passing car could have handled it differently too. Personally, on a late T10 pass like that, I would have just stayed right and entered the turn. But I've seen it done both ways. When a car does move back on line just before the turn-in, I generally expect there's going to be some possible braking, and try to anticipate/allow for it.

As mentioned, never hurts to go and talk to the driver afterwards. Much better when we discuss and learn from each other, rather than fester in unfulfilled expectations. ;)

Perhaps the video atenuates other aspects or depth perception. From another red run group drover seeing only the video... It looked like the white car took your pass, got in front, got over (yes nice and tight) set the nose/tweeked the speed of his car slightly for turn in and got on with it not holding you up a second.
I was looking for things like Mark's helmet taking a dip as you had to stand on the brakes to keep from tagging the white car but it did not look like you guys had to make any eyepopping ajustments.
If I know the other driver/car I prefer the car coming back in then we both get a good run on the turn. If the passing car has to stay off line and ajust entry and apex speeds down the passed car gets balked too. What I have never liked was a straigt line car getting in front and then puttering through the corner making me stand on the brakes to over ajust to his cornering speed. Would take be 2 laps to get the rubber bands rewound. This and uneeded off line cornering used to tick me off when I was droving the 912 in black.

Those GT3 tailights blinking are really cool.. Annoying, perhaps.. startling as it was the frist run on Sat? perhaps, but not sure its really a big deal.

x2 with VG about letting someone by and then getting balked majorly at entrance to T10 and losing momentum for the whole straight. Looks like both cars adjusted well and neither was significantly slowed by the pass.

While he did not cause you lock-up, I do see that as a bit rude. I have had much faster cars pass me and brake hard scaring me badly so I try to give tons of room when passing and stay offline into the corner. I figure people will be more willing to give me a pass anywhere if they know from experience that I will be very polite and give them lots of room as I go by.

I also agree that the proper course of action if your were uncomfy is to talk to the other driver in a nonconfrontational way so he can recognize that he put you out of your comfort zone.

I got to watch this from right behind, i thought they hit till noone came in the next lap.
in the video the fisheye in the go pro really throws me off but i know i said WTF when i saw it happen.
i agree there was not a ton of speed lost....to me it just seems that if your going to move back over just barely in front of someone, when your already in a braking zone slappin on the brakes could cause a huge problem if your less than a car length away...and the courtesy side of things.
Granted im new to red but didnt have anything like this happen to me all weekend and was definately passed in the same play by Ryark (ryan and clark 3 inches apart)

That's a video artifact; in real life, you don't see the blinking.

ed

While I concur that it didn't lead to dramatic correction by the car being passed, and I acknowledge lower HP cars not wanting to be blocked, my preference is to stay off line in late pass situations. Some of my favorite late passing signals are with John Sullivan where I dive in right behind him; fun and neither is held up much. I'd say that my experiences in giving/taking passes were positive this weekend.

Also endorse the concept of talking with the other driver, as Roundel stated so eloquently. BTW, only one such white GT3 RS there this weekend - Mike Levitas. I think that even Mike would like to know if something he did made someone else uncomfortable.