x2, If you don't count the time to take the wheels on and off it takes less than 10min!

Irfan, It took Tim more time because he also had to tie off the wear sensors since this was the first time you were putting track pads on your car. Also, Thanks Tim for helping with the change. I was suposed to do it but Tim was nice enough to start while I was on track.

Or maybe Tim's just a slow worker in general. :lol:

But seriously, many thanks to both of you for your help.

The pads were great on the track, and Annabelle had no difficulty adjusting to them either. Dan Dazzo also liked them a lot better than the stock pads.

Excellent. I'm glad it worked out. I also really liked them on our bedding run outside of the facility!

Performance Friction 08s are not that noisy on the street. I like them much better than the 97. Great overall pad. They are More rotor friendly and a very nice linear torque curve.

I was always too lazy to change back and forth between street and track pads. Performance Frictions were not as noisy as Pagid and Hawk when not up to temp. This was on my Carrera. I would not leave them on if the car is daily driver, but they are OK to and from the track. Dust will always be an issue with track pads. Some worse than others.

As far as using the Hawk HPS on the track. They aren't bad if you are a green group driver. If you are past that level, then you will find them lacking. Feel free to PM me if I can be of further assistance.

Kind regards,
Mark

I'd have been a lot quicker if you guys were not all huddled around debating the pro/cons of mixing pads and compounds....:p
Next time it's your turn on the pad swap and I'll hold the stopwatch.:D

I was just talking with Sloan at SSI about pads and tires, and he mentioned you as the expert on pads. He'll probably be giving you a call.

If I'm too lazy to swap track and street pads, Sloan agrees that PFs are good pads and much quieter than Hawks, while still good on the track and good enough for the street when cold. Would need to decide exactly which PF to get, if not the 08, but PF is the direction I'm currently leaning. I guess these are the options: http://www.performancefriction.com/R...s_20101002.pdf

Irfan:
I am a huge fan of the 08 and the 06. I have gotten lots of positive feedback on the 08s when used on the 997 and 987 platforms. I've raced on the 06s in a Spec Box, the 01s on my former Carrera. The 01s have more initial torque and require a very sensitive foot to keep them out of the ABS or lockup, at least that is my own experience with them. The 06 and 08 are both rotor friendly and work right down to the minimum thickness. I've seen end users run them down to the backing plates, though I don't recommend stretching them that far.

It would be nice to have the same pads in our 997 and Cayman R. Between the 06 and 08, which do you think would be less noisy and better at colder temps on the street?

As far as noise when cold, they are about the same. Both are good. Is your 997 an "S" or standard model?

The 911 is 997.2 C2S cab. Pretty little thing, but it will still have to serve track duty.

Sounds like maybe the PFC 08 is the way to go?

By the way, my wife and I were at your shop a couple of Saturdays ago, and Bill gave us a lot of good advice.