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roundel 05-21-2013 08:45 AM

Are you removing weight from the drover too? The nut behind the wheel is a great potential place for weight savings.

arob 05-21-2013 08:47 AM

Very cool - I met a gentleman in April at VIR with a fully caged CaymanS. Looked cool - and he didn't have any plans to race. He just wanted a fun, safe DE car.

Good on him. :)

good hands 05-21-2013 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by vranko (Post 444702)


My car is a 2007 Cayman S. Any thought/recommendations on class with be appreciated. For now I'm erring on the side of safety and feeding my addiction to mod the car. I figure if I ever need to sell the car it will never sell as stock again so why not put the cage it.

If you want to keep it pretty stock then it fits right into H class and you can play with Ryan. If you want to flash it and add aero you would go to I class or could run GTB and come play with me :)
Just be sure you don't do something that would really bump you out of a class that Cayman's are competitive in. Read the rules carefully and feel PM me if you need any detailed info.

spiffyjiff 05-21-2013 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by vranko (Post 444674)
Door panels are 15lbs each including the speakers and the airbag.

wow, that's it? i guess it's the steel/safety bracing, etc that makes them so heavy. cuz darn if they dont feel much heavier when opening or closing, ya know?

Der ABT 05-21-2013 09:24 AM

is it a pdk??? pdk seems to be the caymen to get for club racing so that may be something to consider before the resale is completely gone...

or jsut start a checkbook caymen thread....regardless of what you decide it will still be fun im sure.
the more the DE the more bad habits you get, racing is a new animal...JUMP IN...VIR is a good place to start if you ask me so hurry up haha.

Potomac-Greg 05-21-2013 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vranko (Post 444702)
No plan yet (I'm way to ADHD to plan anything :oops:). I want to get another year of DEs in then work on moving up to racing.

One suggestion. If you have the car ready, go ahead and take a competition license school as soon as feasible and get your ticket. I've seen people get hung up because they miss the local school and end up blowing a season.

Even without a clear PCA class, you could run in a few NASA GTS class races just to get the track time and keep the license current. The first season of racing (IMHO) is about getting used to the process especially the psychological routine associated with a race weekend. Your first season will be a blur of anxiety and confusion, so why not make that a "throwaway season"?

I assure you that you [EDIT: specifically John] don't have anything more to learn at DEs that will help you with racing. In other words, the stuff you will need to learn to go racing isn't even allowed at DEs. :roll:

N Fotouhi 05-21-2013 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Potomac-Greg (Post 444723)
I assure you that you don't have anything more to learn at DEs that will help you with racing. In other words, the stuff you will need to learn to go racing isn't even allowed at DEs. :roll:

I agree that racing and DE are different when it comes to learning race craft. However, IMO, not learning anything in DEs that help you in racing is completely inaccurate. How many racers do you know that miss flags? A lot of people get into racing without having developed the skill to catch a sliding car or track awareness. The best racers I know can place the car where they want on the track subconsciously and do not worry about whether they can keep control. You can develop a lot of skills you use in racing at DEs. Just have to pay attention.

LPM911 05-21-2013 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by good hands (Post 444708)
Just be sure you don't do something that would really bump you out of a class that Cayman's are competitive in.

This x1000. I took this advice when I converted my car into a racecar and it was very solid advice. For one, it means you can probably sell the car more easily should you want to move on one day. But, if you decide to go racing, it means you are getting more and more experience in a class legal car (vs having to undo something then relearn the car before you go racing).

Potomac-Greg 05-21-2013 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by N Fotouhi (Post 444734)
I agree that racing and DE are different when it comes to learning race craft. However, IMO, not learning anything in DEs that help you in racing is completely inaccurate. How many racers do you know that miss flags? A lot of people get into racing without having developed the skill to catch a sliding car or track awareness. The best racers I know can place the car where they want on the track subconsciously and do not worry about whether they can keep control. You can develop a lot of skills you use in racing at DEs. Just have to pay attention.

I should have been clearer. I was speaking of John in particular. DE is a very logical (and in my view essential*) precursor to racing. And you never really stop learning from DE. I just think John's well past the ready-to-race point with skills, etc. In other words, John doesn't need more DEs to prepare for racing.

* SCCA doesn't require any prior track experience to sign up for competition license school. I've never really understood this, other than as a way to increase participation.

ausgeflippt951 05-21-2013 11:19 AM

Greg, I do think it's the participation thing. Hell, a fully prepped spec miata can be had for $5k.

John -- oh boy!!!


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