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DonNewton 10-28-2008 07:10 PM

"Maybe I should be watching Craigslist-Darien,Conn. for my dream car." NOW, here's an idea!

edevinney 10-28-2008 07:42 PM

Porsche probably manipulated the stock although apparently the level of disclosure was legal in Germany. I gotta say it's nice to see the usual suspects take it in the shorts (as it were). Karma's a bitch.

This article from a couple weeks ago explains the mechanism and must have made those holding the short positions feel really, really bad. Or more bad, I guess, given the market.

http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2008...ine-explained/

tdatk 10-28-2008 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Potomac-Greg (Post 228642)
Serves the hedge fundees right. Maybe they can move on to jobs actually making things or helping people.

Excellent idea!...Too bad that concept lost interest over here. That's what happens when too many smart people figure it's much easier to profit off margin than to profit off mfg. It will take the Chinese and Indian(insert favorite cheep labor here)labor force to want to be living the dream and demand a fair wage to bring mfg back here. Sad but true.

Potomac-Greg 10-28-2008 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DonNewton (Post 228668)
"Maybe I should be watching Craigslist-Darien,Conn. for my dream car." NOW, here's an idea!

I was joking when I typed it, but there might be something to it. Too bad none of them were humble enough to own a cheap track car that I would even buy at 50 cents on the dollar.

thomschoon 10-28-2008 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tdatk (Post 228673)
Excellent idea!...Too bad that concept lost interest over here. That's what happens when too many smart people figure it's much easier to profit off margin than to profit off mfg. It will take the Chinese and Indian(insert favorite cheep labor here)labor force to want to be living the dream and demand a fair wage to bring mfg back here. Sad but true.

Dont forget the consumers who would rather buy a cheap product versus a locally made product. Low cost manufacturing can take place in the US, just ask Kia, Hyundai, & all the other "imports" that make their cars here. The issue is visionary leadership that prefers low cost supplier to low cost country, if your customers will allow it.

Racer29 10-28-2008 08:46 PM

you mean something like this

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/887381608.html

It's a deal

Cheers

Dr K 10-28-2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Potomac-Greg (Post 228655)
Their homes may not be worth what they owe...

They were making $100M-2B/year - you think they have a mortgage?

Dr K 10-28-2008 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Racer29 (Post 228682)
you mean something like this

http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/cto/887381608.html

It's a deal

Cheers

And so it begins :D:D

realroadrage 10-29-2008 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by thomschoon (Post 228679)
Dont forget the consumers who would rather buy a cheap product versus a locally made product. Low cost manufacturing can take place in the US, just ask Kia, Hyundai, & all the other "imports" that make their cars here. The issue is visionary leadership that prefers low cost supplier to low cost country, if your customers will allow it.

Totally agree.

edevinney 10-29-2008 12:32 PM

This is also nice coverage of the squeeze: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/thereporters/robertpeston/

Anyone who didn't believe that Porsche wanted to own VW gets what they deserve.


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