2 hours?!? :shock: If it takes you anywhere near that long, then I don't blame you.

Anyway, as mentioned a thousand times, use whatever you want. You 'll figure it out over time. If you already have made up your mind, then this thread can die a quick death.

I talked with the Performance Friction rep at length about this. They have aftermarket Z-rated carbon metallic pads which are good for the street and a big upgrade over stock pads, and they also consider them good enough for relatively short track day sessions, as we typically have in DEs (but not sustained racing). They're apparently not subject to a lot of fade at high temps, but they may wear faster at high temps, so it's important to keep an eye on them. Unless someone here tells me they've tried them and found them inadequate for occassional DEs, I'm tempted to give them a shot. A bit more info here: http://www.performancefriction.com/a...rake-pads.aspx

An hour to put them on, an hour to switch back.

Ah, right. Guess that's why I leave the 'race pads' on all 24/7.

Have you started looking at lifts yet? :twisted:

Suggest you call Paul Westin at Westin Motorsports, or Eric Wong at Brakeswap. Both have a ton of brake pad experience on a variety of cars, and sell pads from more then one manufacturer so they are not biased. Also suggest you talk to some 997 drivers from the White Group while at the track next weekend.

Good suggestions, will do. Thanks.

I resemble that remark....., although 1/3 the time is spend shuffling cars/bicycles/toys so I can get started. Also, between driving a fo fo and only making a handful of DE's a year, it's a once every two years project.

I thought Pam did it anyway.

Irfan:
PF Z Rated street pads are nice for that application. Just like Hawk HPS, a great street pad. Like any other street pad, you are going to find them lacking when heated up on the track. They might be OK in green group, but as you progress, you'll wear them out quickly.

I traveled this road 14 years ago when my daily driver was also my DE and autocross car. I tried a compromise pad and ended up with track pads on the car 24/7. I drove the car from green through white group. Like I said in an earlier post, if you are set on tracking your 997S cab, put the proper pads on it for track use.

Page 16?! Holy cow -- haven't been paying any attention to this thread; would've thought everything would have been decided by now. And I thought I was indecisive on things like this. :)


In regards to the "spending time swapping brake pads" comments: is spending 2hrs/mo "working" on your car too much time?


Now, I know you have two very nice (and NEW!) cars that I'm sure are in great shape (that wasn't sarcasm, BTW). But DE's put a HUGE amount of additional wear-and-tear on our cars. When doing DE's, you can't be retroactive in solving problems on these cars. Now, my car is much older than yours so admittedly I'm sure I need to spend considerably more time under my car that you might. That said, I see swapping brake pads, bleeding brakes, and doing oil changes as a way to get reacquainted with my car's potential flaws.


I'm sure many of us here have uncovered a problem with their car whilst performing a mundane task such as swapping pads.

Or, show of hands: how many people have uncovered something stupid a mechanic may have done while working on our cars (doesn't have to be a track car)? What happens if you take your car in to get an alignment and the mechanic forgets to tighten a bolt? Hopefully, the tech inspection will uncover this, but still....





My point is: you can't realistically think you'll be able to do a million DE's without needing to get underneath your car and understand (at least on a high level) what's going on... that is to say, unless you're GT3's girlfriend. In which case you can.