Ooh, Well played.

3300-3500lb car, plus driver, plus instructor plus 130+mph.. Yup, compromise pad makes sense to me :roll:

I don't know anything about compromise pads....I compromise on nothing. However, I have found that my track pads (PF-97s) are very dirty and create a ton of dust. That dust gets all over the wheels and sides of the car. Any water makes it rust, including to the sides of the car. Hence, if you found a nice compromise pad but it makes similar dust, would that crap bother you on a new 997? It would me. I'd just learn to swap pads for the few occasions I tracked my non-dedicated 997. I'd also invest in some detailing products.

Me? I don't mind pad squeal. It lets the people on the streets know I'm coming. And, I'm coming in a Porsche.

Here's Pagids description on the Sports...

RS 4-2-1 Black
High Performance compound with low fading characteristics and high cold friction. The RS 4-2-1 is a most comfortable medium friction compound and very easy on the discs (rotors). Very popular for brake up grades or tuning. It is OE on various Super Sports Cars among others Aston Martin, Bugatti, Ferrari, Lamborgini, Lotus or McLaren. Suitable for street and light track use such as track days or driving education.

They work fine for me for my application of a couple times a year. I use Hawk Blues in the 944.

Those are probably fine for someone who does 1-2 events/ year (which is pretty common outside of our world -- PCA Potomac does a lot more events then most groups). With only 1-2 events a year, the driver will likely not be carrying nearly as much momentum into the t-hold braking zones as they could be, and also may not be adept at t-hold braking yet.

But with 30 track das in just the first season, you WILL burn through pads that are not track compounds.

Oh, and forget about driving half-speed into the braking zones in order to save the pads, as that just screws things up for all the cars behind you. It's not fair it you sandbag it out their and mess up everyone elses' runs.

What about the drills where you stay in 1 gear for a lap? Maybe you could just keep your arm out the window and practice not using the brakes?

The way I see it, street pads are like the fast-food of brakes. Sure, they taste good, but they aren't good for you. Track pads are like spinach and broccoli, it's full of nutrients.

Since you guys are wearing me down (pun intended), let me ask a question closer to my original question: what's a good track pad which has moderate enough bite to be routinely used on the street? The PFC08s are pretty good, but the bite is maybe just slightly too much for the street.

I have run PF97s exclusively on my track car. On the street, to the track, drive thru's, 400 miles to mid Ohio, etc. I have no idea what "too much bite" on the street means.

I have drive peoples track cars with track pads on the street and the pads were like ice. Almost like there was nothing there. It was a. 951 and trying to brake when the pads were cold was frightening.

I've noticed that the friction vs temp relationship varies a good bit among track pads, with some of them maintaining fairly constant friction, and others having a substantial friction increase with temp (sometimes with a drop in friction at very high temps). For example: http://www.pagidracing.com/techinfo.html