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blipshift 07-30-2012 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicegrip (Post 407026)
Might be a hint as to what they think the car needs compound wise.

Take them to the track installed in a car that has any weight and or HP and prepare to be disappointed.

Question. Very specifically, what experience do you have with a 997 running Pagid Sports?

Vicegrip 07-30-2012 05:18 PM

Good question. Answer = None.

Question. What makes a 997 any different than other sports cars?

John Clay 07-30-2012 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicegrip (Post 407035)
Good question. Answer = None.

Question. What makes a 997 any different than other sports cars?

Opinion - there is a difference between cars. I can run my 944 with compromise pads (HP+ specifically) and while they are not as consistent or confidence inspiring as race pads (PF 97s), they will get me through a DE session without significant issue.

Tried exact same set up in the bmw 328 (HP+, ATE blue), and had to quit after 5 laps due to fade. While there could be other factors, I chalk it up to the extra hp in the 328, with brakes that are not as good.

CanAm 07-30-2012 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by John Clay (Post 407036)
Opinion - there is a difference between cars. I can run my 944 with compromise pads (HP+ specifically) and while they are not as consistent or confidence inspiring as race pads (PF 97s), they will get me through a DE session without significant issue.

Tried exact same set up in the bmw 328 (HP+, ATE blue), and had to quit after 5 laps due to fade. While there could be other factors, I chalk it up to the extra hp in the 328, with brakes that are not as good.

IIRC, the 997.2 C2S cab weighs around 3500 lbs and puts out 385 hp. So fairly heavy and fairly powerful. I didn't really notice any fade previously with the stock pads, but I'm driving faster and braking harder now.

Checked another source and it says ~3300 lbs. Not sure which is correct.

Vicegrip 07-30-2012 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Irfan (Post 407038)
IIRC, the 997.2 C2S cab weighs around 3500 lbs and puts out 385 hp. So fairly heavy and fairly powerful. I didn't really notice any fade previously with the stock pads, but I'm driving faster and braking harder now.

This is the angle I am working from. The same driver that posts this question about this car also is posting "How do I get more track time?" threads. This = track junkie in the making. This forum is littered with track junkies most of which all made the same list of mistakes as the disease progressed.

Taking it easy on pads while driving on the track is like taking a "free sprinted and willing girl" to dinner and a movie. So close yet so far. ;)

As I said earler I am potsing my opinions.

blipshift 07-30-2012 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicegrip (Post 407044)
This is the angle I am working from. The same driver that posts this question about this car also is posting "How do I get more track time?" threads. This = track junkie in the making. This forum is littered with track junkies most of which all made the same list of mistakes as the disease progressed.

Taking it easy on pads while driving on the track is like taking a "free sprinted and willing girl" to dinner and a movie. So close yet so far. ;)

As I said earler I am potsing my opinions.

Then he should sell the cab and cayman and get a GT3...forget the pads, buy a new car, IRFAN! 8-)

If he just wants to exercise the cab then I just simpy don't agree with the other comments. The guy already has a track car, and IMO there is no need to have two track cars to maintain by yourself.

CanAm 07-30-2012 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by threedownandlocked (Post 407051)
Then he should sell the cab and cayman and get a GT3...forget the pads, buy a new car, IRFAN! 8-)

If he just wants to exercise the cab then I just simpy don't agree with the other comments. The guy already has a track car, and IMO there is no need to have two track cars to maintain by yourself.

Don't think I can part with either the cab or Cayman, but I may add a GT3 at some point (anyone selling?). When that happens, the cab will retire from track duty, but until then I do want exercise the cab on the track now and then. It's unfortunate about the Pagid Sports, but hopefully there's something else out there which will do the job.

good hands 07-30-2012 08:08 PM

Have you tried posing this question on 6speedonline ? Those guys are way more knowledgeable than the people here when it comes to 997's. And way cooler too.

blipshift 07-30-2012 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by good hands (Post 406827)
My bad. Didn't even know they made a black pad that wasn't a serious track pad. Why the F would they have 3 different black compounds ? Most track guys just know their pads as Pagid blacks,oranges, greys and yellows.


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Originally Posted by good hands (Post 407066)
Have you tried posing this question on 6speedonline ? Those guys are way more knowledgeable than the people here when it comes to 997's. And way cooler too.

Agreed.

BlackTalon 07-30-2012 08:24 PM

Yeah, these really are 6speedonline questions.

Get whatever pads you want. Once you reach a level similar to PCA Potomac's White Group, you WILL toast a set of street pads in a day of track driving. If it's a one day event, then no big deal. If it's a two day event, you may have to sit out Day Two (but you don't get a refund). You'll figure it out quickly enough.

It's interesting to see a thread about maximizing safety and then seeing another one about using pads that are not really up to the task on the track once your driving is at the point whrere you are 135 mph+ at the end of the main straight. I know I would not want to be on street pads, but that is just me.


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