Were getting off topic, but:


BSR is in a tough spot as is probably every track out there. But, somehow they are doing something right because they have been expanding and have plans for more. They should buy up the immediate real estate and lobby to put in a casino! (I bet it will come some day if not in Charlestown 1st.)
Where else can you drive bikes and cars fast and shoot guns.

Smae thing happens around train lines... people "didn't see" the tracks or realize that they blow the whistle every time they come to crossings.

But yeah, actually, when was the track built? I'm sure someone here knows.

Not sure when the track was built, but it was probably in the 60s or 70s. Does not matter who was there first, It may be rural but there are a lot of residents in a mile or so of it, and if the prospective buyers looked during the week and there were no cars on track or just muffled ones!!. The track like most nowadays has noise restrictions, and as just stated, BSR is doing and has done a lot to co-exist with an increasing influx of new houses and residents. One of these is limiting hours and noise, also asking participants to be aware of speed limits.
If you want to look at this in a national scale, look at how many residents complain after they buy a house right under the glidescope of a major airport.Sure they should have known it was there, but airports are closing down every month in the USA, some due to encroaching development others due to the hassles of idiots who buy there and then complain. It is unlikely that BSR will negotiate longer hours on Friday/Saturday, but the person to ask and he probably has asked already is Eric Stratton. There have been some good suggestions and debate both here and on Porsche Talk. Be carefull of polls taken on Sunday morning if there were any disruptions on Saturday. Potomac does listen and more members do look at Porsche Talk, even if there is not as active posting as here.We all drive the track and would like to get a wee bit more time out there without disrupting safety. I have instructed for FATT and other regions both PCA and other marques and as an instuctor I am not giving my best service jumping out of 1 students car before I have time for a decent debrief to jump into anothers. That can be related to the cost of the event that instructors pay for or are subsidised. Potomac gives a free lunch at Chez Summit and a discount on entry, possibly easier to register (benefitting the instructed groups). We are suffering from our success to the degree of trying to give as many as reasonably possible a chance to drive. I have instructed for other PCA regions at S.P and they can sometimes give more track time than Potomac, but if all Dorkis sign up and there are enough instructors, we will be right where we are at total track time per run group.
Dirk

Judging by the look of the crazy guy, I would say his family had been working the land there for generations... SP is not a 'destination' yet -- it's still full of folks who have lived there forever.

A little OT, but last year was the first that SC was open. It seemed a lot of clubs wanted a shot and you could find openings in other PCA regions. I wonder how things have settled out as clubs may have over-extended last year and may be tightening up. Are there more or fewer PCA events this year than last. (Now where is that link to the combined schedule. or BSA?)

I wonder if there is a way to keep a record of theoretical time on the track versus actual time on the track. It is possible that one approach theoretically maximizes track time but in fact results in less track time due to practical considerations. I mean, due to circumstances beyond our control, schedules frequently are adjusted, and it may be that one schedule provides an advantage in this respect. This might help everyone make a more informed decision.

Todd, I think you have just stepped forward :D

I'll wave to you when I go by the main straight. :lol:

Again, while slightly OT, it seems every race track ever built is sooner or later encroched by developers. Bridgehampton in NY was torn down to make way for a golf course. Lime Rock for years doesn't run on Sundays due to its proximity to a Church. They also have harsh noise restrictions. MtTremblant which for years was nearly dormant, is struggling with new condos for the skiers and the "mountain weekend homes" being built near by. No matter how "remote" a track is, its days will come to:

1) introduce sound restrictions
2) introduce limited hours of operation and/or
3) trade some time during some weekends to allow larger (ie more profitable) crowd drawing events more time to enjoy themselves (think SCCA, Motorcycle, NASA races during the summer)

Back on topic, I thought the 3/4 debate was less about losing a few minutes of overall track time in replacement of simply having more "concentrated" sessions of learning. I would gladly give up 5-10 min overall to reduce the HOURS (bored) between run times.

"track neighbors" are people too...