Where to get stainless steel An fuel lines, Marc A?

[flatsixcrazy]

Hey guys,
I am looking for ss braidded AN fuel lines (atleast that is what I think I am looking for) to run from the fuel pump to the fuel accumulator and back for my 3.0 CIS in my 71 body. Would anyone knows of a reliable source for these lines. I was told that Marc A. is the wiz for these kind of things?. Thanks in advance, Andy

[William Miller]

Are you talking about rubber lines with braided SS covering?
I bought some a few years ago from Jeggs for a project on my boat.
Their pretty quick turn arround. Do you need a lot or a little?

[Charlie Stylianos]

I talked to Marc last week re: the exact same thing.

His response was 'Fittings Guy':
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kcroussin/index.html

who now is:
http://www.sweetperformance.com

Assembly instructions:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~kcroussin/id17.html

[flatsixcrazy]

Hi guys,
Bill- I need alot. About 20ft. Charlie's got the link to what I am looking for. Charlie- As always, you're the king, baby!!!!!.
Now, I just need to figure which connectors and size for the CIS system?
Andy

[William Miller]

Do you need to run both thru the tunnell or can you use the one that's already there?
I only had maybe a few feet left.

[flatsixcrazy]

Hi Bill,
The hardlines inside the tunnel of my 1971 are of smaller diameter compared to the CIS lines. I think I may have to route a completely new fuel pressure/return lines, with the same diameter as the rest of the CIS system, from the pump to the accumulator and back. I am not sure how to remove the hard lines from the 1971 tunnel. It may be a little tight with both, the new lines and the old hardlines in the same 1971 tunnel. If that is the case, I'll just run the new lines underneath the body and fab up some type of protection cover out of aluminum. I am trying to get some answers from the guys who has done the conversion already, but have not gotten very far. Andy

[BillJ]

Did this with the 914, so not sure on the distance and fittings for your system exactly, but i used -6 thorughout with the Holley Blue pump going out to carbs. DO suggest you go as planned with bypassing the fuel lines in the tunnel. They are certainly old and have seen pictures of burning cars that have added new lines and different pressures through them. This was enough motivation for me. So go fresh all the way. Piece of mind is well worth it. I got all my stuff through Summit, but Marc has most likely found the best deal!

Bill

[flatsixcrazy]

Hi Bill Jay,
Thanks for the tip. Thomas and I saw your lines at your lift install and figured that's what we wanted to do. very cool. What about the routing of the lines?. Should I run the lines underneath or inside the cabin?. Thanks. Andy

[William Miller]

Just a thought, but, if the existing line is steel going thru the tunnel then I think it would at least work for the return. There should be plenty of room in the tunnell, Mine has a little condiut within the tunnell where the lines are run. I think the lines are welded in place.
There's some pictures on PP of a tunnel that was removed and you can see all the different lines. If you do a search with my name you'll probably find it pretty quick. I started the thread because I was welding in my seat brackets and thought I melted the wiring harness.

I don't like the idea of running the lines under the car, but, maybe that's the common way to do it!

[BillJ]

Being a full on race car, I had no issue putting them inside the cabin. If you want a cleaner install then I would investigate going the original factory route, provided the tunnel will accomodate that. I think the lines are welded in place in the tunnel so that they do not move around and wear. That said, mine were hard plastic and the ran through welded in guides. Not sure on the 911. This could be a pain to work around, and one of the reasons i went inside the cabin. You are welcome to stop by and investigate some more. You have my number.

Had even though about a cooling mechanism for the fuel that would double as a cooler for a cool suit but thats way down the line and pure fantasy at this point :D

[flatsixcrazy]

I kind of like the idea of running the fuel lines outside of the tunnel and outside of the car. Might be easier to see the leaks and better access if I need to get to it in the future. Are there any cons to this idea, beside the lines may be in harms way and exposed to the element?. Andy

[William Miller]

My concern is that easier dammaged and resulting fire hazard.
I assume, dammage is not as likely if their tucked up in the cabin or in the tunnel. I'm no expert!
You might want to look at the PCA rules to see if there is anything mentioned. Or send a tech question to PCA Tech chair!

[Vicegrip]

Most people run them inside and my personal pref is inside. It sounds bad but think about it the lines are already inside car car. Use gromits where you pass through sheetmetal or better yet use bulkhead fittings. For more safety get an impact cutoff switch. It kills the power to the fuel pump if you wreck the car. Summit and Performance products has them.

[}{arlequin]

what size in inches (approx) is AN -10 hose diameter?

[Charlie Stylianos]

Dave,

I had the same questions re: the difference between AN12 and AN16. It was hard to find the ID of these fittings on the net, never did find a helpful site that laid it all out. FYI: AN16 are about .88" ID. AN12 is too small for engine to cooler lines.