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DonNewton
01-10-2021, 03:32 PM
Was able to watch the first races from Inter Lagos yesterday and was amazed at the amazing realism of the "game/race". Does anyone know what format is used to race in this series? NOT going to run down that rabbit hole, but I sure would like to research the platform used to race. Looked at the at-home sim set-ups and I guess you could blow a couple years racing budget on just your home set up. Saw one that had an electric/hydraulic arm that raised the seat platform so you really could experience all three axis of movement. NOT going to run down that rabbit hole. . .

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

nylart
01-10-2021, 04:42 PM
The Porsche Sim racing series is on the iRace platform

DonNewton
01-11-2021, 11:13 AM
Thanks. I'll be looking into this!

BMAN
01-12-2021, 12:51 PM
I am doing my 1st eDE tonight with PCA SIM League. https://pcasimracing.com/

The level of participation is much higher than I realized. They have support groups and leagues per PCA Zone and then there are leagues inside of the zones.

The extent of my gaming/sim driving, prior to 3 weeks ago, was playing Wii Mario Kart with my kids over a decade ago. iRacing is a whole different world and I am finding it to be a real challenge getting started. It took me awhile to complete a single lap on circuits I know well. It's a rewire of your senses and I am clearly not rewired yet. I am definitely going to take people out tonight but not on purpose.

so you really could experience all three axis of movement. NOT going to run down that rabbit hole. . .

Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

I think SIM racing is about to change in this regard. "Affordable" motion systems, up until recently, were unable to simulate the level of immersion to make them beneficial, let alone increase the fun factor to justify the investment. Gimmicky is how most had been described. Latency, limited range of motion, hardware&software options and cost have all been hurdles. There are some really advanced simulators but costs are in the $75-125k range. I've been researching motion systems for years and recently the DIY world began advancing quickly and there are options today that are game changing...pun intended.

It isn't cheap but considering what many SIM racers spend fitting out their static rigs, it is no longer unobtanium. Cost for a really good platform is what some racers will spend on slick tires over 2-3 race weekends.

I built the below and shown are the 3 tiers of the motion system. it's run on 7 independent actuators and drivers with 6 degree of freedom motion. The big advancement in immersion arguably comes from the addition of surge and traction loss. Surge being most important, in my opinion. The platform moves forward/back under brake/accel. Surge combined with harnesses (not in picture) gives brake feedback/feel which doesn't exist in most SIM rigs.

It is DIY and not for the faint of heart. I counted roughly 1000 pieces that I assembled, wired and programmed. Took me a month working on it here and there. Got it running just after Christmas but it's located above my daughter's bedroom and she's home from college which really limits my driving time. Next month I plan on putting in some seat time.

It turned out better than I expected and most importantly, I WANT to drive it A LOT.

63697

Nerfbar
01-12-2021, 02:40 PM
Looks a bit like old Sparky.

Dandelion
01-13-2021, 08:50 AM
Looks a bit like old Sparky.

This one adds the possibility of crushing body parts.

cmartin
01-13-2021, 09:00 AM
Looks a bit like old Sparky.

funny, I didnt see that. now I cant not ;)

BlackTalon
01-13-2021, 09:35 AM
It is DIY and not for the faint of heart. I counted roughly 1000 pieces that I assembled, wired and programmed. Took me a month working on it here and there. Too funny. It only took me about 5 hours to build a Fiat 500 with wheels that turn, seats that move, doors that open/ close and a roof that retracts, and that was about 950 pieces. And that was with a 7-year-old 'helping' for a good part of the time. You work slooooooooow :lol:

Patrick3000
01-13-2021, 11:01 AM
You work slooooooooow :lol:

How is that clutch coming :p

cmartin
01-13-2021, 11:28 AM
David D.
'87 Targa

- 2030 quickly disappearing...

I have absolutely no room to talk

BMAN
01-13-2021, 12:12 PM
Talon's got a bunch of new nuggets



Hunt + VG 2020

BlackTalon
01-13-2021, 01:16 PM
How is that clutch coming :peh, it's been in for about 3 years. I need to take it back apart though to get the flywheel resurfaced. Originally I was not going to fuch with it.

Realistically I'm still a couple years out from being able to participate in multi-day DEs. Way too much $$$ needed to replace wheels and update all the safety stuff just to go out for a couple of one-day track events.

Plus the damn car gets more valuable every frickin' day it sits in the carport. It had pretty much bottomed out in value (>$15k) when I parked it.

So for now I build Legos and pretend I am racing while sitting inside my house :lol:

BlackTalon
01-13-2021, 01:16 PM
Hunt + VG 2020That ticket would have won, too...

Dandelion
01-13-2021, 02:51 PM
How is that clutch coming :p

Savage.

BlackTalon
01-13-2021, 03:00 PM
Savage.No biggie. No desire to 'buy my way out of it' since I can't really get to the track anyway.

I suppose if I was really desperate I could buy a 951 or something crappy like that just so I could go drive a few laps :D

DonNewton
01-13-2021, 05:39 PM
I actually started reading the PCA weekly newsletter regarding Sim Racing. STILL not running down that rabbit hole (got way too many activities to add one more. . .). Besides, my guitars get lonely. Saw my 914 today. In the final phases of undoing all the hardcore track stuff and getting it on the road here in Kalifornia. Keeping the 2.7 and just softening the suspension a little for these amazingly smooth freeways (HEAVY SARCASM). Going to be presented as an outlaw with the relatively open exhaust I ran at MO and Watkins. Should be fun! Reason for no longer competing: both hips and both shoulders. I'm right at the 600K man level. . .

Dr K
01-13-2021, 08:02 PM
these amazingly smooth freeways (HEAVY SARCASM).

This is only for people who live in the DC area. When I started medical school, one of my classmates had just moved from California. He was having issues with the roads, and was driving into Georgetown when he saw a sign for "Freeway" so he took it expecting something like the freeways in California. It was the Whitehurst Freeway - imagine his disappointment!

Patrick3000
01-14-2021, 01:44 PM
I suppose if I was really desperate I could buy a 951 or something crappy like that just so I could go drive a few laps :D

I see what you did there ;)

You are a smart guy, faster, more reliable and better balanced. You might be onto something :twisted:

Here you go

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-porsche-944-turbo-166/

https://i.ibb.co/8BBJBcG/4-B53940-C-85-F2-4-F7-E-96-C6-92-F243-A593-C8.jpg



If only we could fine one somewhere around here that was a better value. :p :D

BlackTalon
01-14-2021, 02:35 PM
Kind of fitting that a 944 ad is posted on a site about needing to bring a trailer :lol: