Corona Beer Virus and P-Cars

[Patrick3000]

Just checking in to see how everyone is coping and curious how this is impacting your hobby.

I think prices may soften a bit this season due to the economic impact of the virus.

According to the CDC, I’m in the dead pool, so I am doing my part to devalue the collection. Drove the GT3 to work yesterday and again today :D

With fewer players literally and economically, I may also reach for the next one :twisted:

See you at the track :)

[BlackTalon]

Virus alert hit my neighborhood last night. Someone infected at the church in DC was at a church around the corner from my house every day for about 10 days in late February/ early March. Also a couple people associated with the public school system went on self-quarantine yesterday. Thankfully I do not interact with churches since they cast me our a couple thousand years ago.

Been pumping some $$ into my SEP IRA and brokerage accounts. I'm sure there is a lower bottom, but I'm happy buying in when there is a sale even if not a liquidation.

[HughA44s]

Yup - Fully funding the 401k at an accelerated rate. Should max out the year shortly. I figure a few more confirmed cases in the DC area and NASA/NOAA will be closed down and tele-working as we have already been holding readiness drills.

What the PCA policy on holding track events?

[}{arlequin]

What the PCA policy on holding track events?

track fever is good for everyone?

[VaSteve]

track fever is good for everyone?

Brake dust covered hands prevent COVID 19

[Patrick3000]

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[Patrick3000]

track fever is good for everyone?

So is burning all of the oil that Saudi and the Russians produce 😎

Global warming will kill the virus 🦠 :D

[BMAN]

According to the CDC, I’m in the dead pool

I figured you were a lot older than me, thanks for confirming :p

[Trak Ratt]

......
According to the CDC, I’m in the dead pool, so I am doing my part to devalue the collection. Drove the GT3 to work yesterday and again today :D

:)im planning my exit strategy, want to out with a bang ;)

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[Nerfbar]

im planning my exit strategy, want to out with a bang ;)

61823

You could sell tickets. I'm in.

[Patrick3000]

I figured you were a lot older than me, thanks for confirming :p

Then why do you look so much older than me :roll:

[BeerBurner]

Yesterday, Fairfax County Public Schools announced that we'll be closed on Monday to train us teachers in online instruction.

While I think it is prudent to plan ahead, I can't help but feel that if I were making instructional videos, the wall behind me might violate some school policies. :p

(I don't intend this to be political or anything. It just made me laugh!)

BB.

[mlytle]

Brake dust covered hands prevent COVID 19

the heck with using "purell", just carry a can of brake cleaner around with you....

[}{arlequin]

green or red?

[edevinney]

BB - you're making me wish I'd bought green screen futures.

[KFJ]

green or red?

Really? What is you some kinda mamby pamby Porch owner? Red or dead.

[Trak Ratt]

So is burning all of the oil that Saudi and the Russians produce 😎

Global warming will kill the virus 🦠 :Dwait’t it summer in South America, Australia and warm 12 - 7 in most of Africa, India and Indonesia??

[JmuRiz]

Track Ratt = yes, warm climate doesn't hurt this one, sitting in a sauna or tropical location does nada.. ;)

[smayst824]

You could sell tickets. I'm in.

But what would you bring to snack on while watching?

[Trak Ratt]

But what would you bring to snack on while watching?

Devil dogs, Red Hots, single malt :D

[BeerBurner]

BB - you're making me wish I'd bought green screen futures.

Ha!

Anyway, Fairfax County closed during the night so it'll give me time to buy and hang a bed sheet if I need to. ;)

BB.

[JmuRiz]

Uggg looks like we're going to have to figure out how to home school a kindergartner for a month...

Hopefully the gov shuts down for a month-long pause to make it like a winter break (haven't had anything like that in 21 years)

[Patrick3000]

The powers that be shutdown the company for a month.

Mandatory work from home starting today :bang:

[Trak Ratt]

Fun the last year or so before I retired working from home. Problem was I ended up working longer since I didn’t have to try and beat the traffic.

Ahhhh the good old days..... bull pucky, these are the good NOW days! Well until some asshats grand kids come for a visit, gives everybody the virus.... or like Iron Mike used to say: everyone has a plan, till they get punched in the mouth!

[Vicegrip]

Visitors would be poor form.

[Patrick3000]

.... Or like iron mike used to say: Everyone has a plan, till they get punched in the mouth!

👍👍👍

[HughA44s]

Just heard the GOV of PA outlawed public gatherings of more than 250 people. No word from the GOV of VAZ and WVA. This should be interesting in regard to track events.

[BlackTalon]

Less than 250 at our SP DEs...

And not really a 'gathering' as people are dispersed over a pretty big area.

Hell, I'd be more concerned about being at a Tech Inspection, holed up in a poorly ventilated service bay with 35 of your closest friends, many of whom have runny noses and are sneezing with great velocity due to season allergies :lol:





...oh, wait... :(



:vags:

[Trak Ratt]

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[jhsmith]

Perhaps we should move to self-inspections for upper run groups... Any actuaries with enough data to calculate the safest option?

Less than 250 at our SP DEs...

And not really a 'gathering' as people are dispersed over a pretty big area.

Hell, I'd be more concerned about being at a Tech Inspection, holed up in a poorly ventilated service bay with 35 of your closest friends, many of whom have runny noses and are sneezing with great velocity due to season allergies :lol:





...oh, wait... :(



:vags:

[Chopper Dropper]

Perhaps we should move to self-inspections for upper run groups... Any actuaries with enough data to calculate the safest option?

Unfortunately we have had poor self tech in the past leading to problems on track, nothing recently that I know of.
Dirk

[roundel]

CDC just lowered to 50 people. If you think track events are happening this spring, you aren’t paying attention.

[Trak Ratt]

CDC just lowered to 50 people. If you think track events are happening this spring, you aren’t paying attention.

Wait.... Jeffrey Epstein didn’t commit subside!

[Mark Hubley]

It is my understanding that Virginia now has a ban on events with more than 100 people. Looks like I may not be driving VIR this coming weekend. :(

[JmuRiz]

They should come to my local beer garden and the farmers market they had this weekend, SMH

But we all know in Arlington, rules don't apply to those with money right - sheesh

[Trak Ratt]

Fairfax county libraries are closing! We stocked up on ebooks just in case. Looks like “just in case” is now a reality!

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Did swing by the “6” store yesterday and picked up a several big bottles if “feel better”. Got a lot of looks in the grocery store line earlier with our cart full of tonic, while others were loaded down w/water and TP

[Vicegrip]

Going to be a run on livers next.

[jhsmith]

I get the part about it being unethical to hoard toilet paper.

But, is it unethical to hoard Porsches and Landcruisers?

[Dandelion]

I get the part about it being unethical to hoard toilet paper.

But, is it unethical to hoard Porsches and Landcruisers?

Only if he gouges them for 3x the price he bought them for.

ed

[Trak Ratt]

Going to be a run on livers next.
I really think when this happens we will be in serious trouble!
61841

I get the part about it being unethical to hoard toilet paper.

But, is it unethical to hoard Porsches and Landcruisers?

Maybe Porsche’s, but no one cares about land cruisers so.....

[cmartin]

Sleds maybe?

I'm in for a cruiser

[mlytle]

Unfortunately we have had poor self tech in the past leading to problems on track, nothing recently that I know of.
Dirk

interesting. a data point, but SCCA has had self tech for advanced and instructors for many years. i have never seen or heard of any problems a third party tech inspection would have prevented.

[Doc_S]

Looks like VIR Zone 2 has been cancelled.

https://rennlist.com/forums/racing-and-drivers-education-forum/1185337-impact-of-corona-virus-on-driving-events-9.html

[jhsmith]

My other hobby of skiing has been cancelled by proclamation of the Governor of Colorado and by Vail/Epic who own many resorts across the country. Skiing seems like a low exposure, low risk outdoor activity, particularly if you don't mix groups on lift chairs and you close the gondolas. But most ski areas have closed anyway. I'm afraid this trend may continue for my other hobby of track driving even though West Virginia is reporting zero cases at the moment.

[Dandelion]

All PCA Potomac events cancelled through 4/30/2020, including the DE.

[jbailey930]

My other hobby of skiing has been cancelled by proclamation of the Governor of Colorado and by Vail/Epic who own many resorts across the country. Skiing seems like a low exposure, low risk outdoor activity, particularly if you don't mix groups on lift chairs and you close the gondolas. But most ski areas have closed anyway. I'm afraid this trend may continue for my other hobby of track driving even though West Virginia is reporting zero cases at the moment.

Hi Jim - problem is flying through DIA......lots of International travel. I have been going to Denver about every other week since July. Looks like I will be home for awhile.

[HughA44s]

-BMW CCA NJ Events Cancelled for 60 days (Interesting here as they operate under what the GOV of NJ says)
-VIR all operations cancelled until 01 April
-BMW CCA Club Race Events still on the Schedule (Social Distancing Rules in Effect - Classes ect held outside and you must carry a tape measure at least 6 feet long and bring your own chair) so the Club Race School on 2 and 3 April is still on - For Now Anyway.

For the first time in years I am ready for this year and now this Happens. This is turning into a bad sequel of Resident Evil.

[roundel]

Skiing seems like a low exposure, low risk outdoor activity, particularly if you don't mix groups on lift chairs and you close the gondolas. But most ski areas have closed anyway.

Picture for a moment the lodge around lunch time.

[Dandelion]

For the first time in years I am ready for this year and now this Happens. This is turning into a bad sequel of Resident Evil.

Resident Precautionary Posture.

ed

[cmartin]

Picture for a moment the lodge around lunch time.

or the airport or a lift line but mostly the bar :)

[Hurricane]

Hershey swap meet canceled.

[jhsmith]

I'm too cheap to eat at the lodge, just put PB&J sandwich in my pocket. But I do have to use the restroom...

Picture for a moment the lodge around lunch time.

[smayst824]

I'm too cheap to eat at the lodge, just put PB&J sandwich in my pocket. But I do have to use the restroom...

We were supposed to go to Breck in 2 weeks... not any longer. Of course, the closing down of resorts and the mandated evacuation of all non-residents from Summit County, CO aren't covered by the trip insurance I bought for our Epic Passes. We'll see what Vail/Epic does for pass holders. Condo people have already offered day-for-day credit for next season... very nice of them. And the airlines have waived change fees, but not cancellation fees, so I'm now planning ANOTHER ski trip for next year. Bummed, but it is what it is.

[Trak Ratt]

61849

Just go in ones and 2s. And sit at separate table ;)

[JmuRiz]

If you want to freak out a bit, take a screenshot of the statistics on the Johns Hopkins site. I’ve noticed a 10% rise in deaths the previous day and with 6 hours to go for my daily snapshot it’s up 10% already. Also it’s not just an old person thing, there’s a publicized one in ffx hospital of a 44 year old in rough shape.

[VaSteve]

If you want to freak out a bit, take a screenshot of the statistics on the Johns Hopkins site. I’ve noticed a 10% rise in deaths the previous day and with 6 hours to go for my daily snapshot it’s up 10% already. Also it’s not just an old person thing, there’s a publicized one in ffx hospital of a 44 year old in rough shape.




At the front end of something in a country large as ours you will see "exponential" growth in the early stages.



Every time I see someone on the news in their mid-40's I'm like "dammn that guy looks rough...." then I look in the mirror myself. :(

[Trak Ratt]

...... Every time I see someone on the news in their mid-40's I'm like "dammn that guy looks rough...." then I look in the mirror myself. :(

Damm boy-o, you’re only in your 40s???

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[Vicegrip]

Sadly the early stages were weeks ago. This is the predictable phase.

[Trak Ratt]

Netflix Party lets you have movie night while social distancing. Plus NASCAR is planning an on line series!

[JoeG]

Here is a good source for showing cumulative cases vs time. Click on the interactive map, situational heatmap to drill down to country and US state level

https://www.washington.edu/news/2020/02/07/interactive-map-shows-worldwide-spread-of-coronavirus/

[jbailey930]

PSA - don't forget to support our local vendors and suppliers.

Now for something completely different

[tbernard]

Shop rules

[Dandelion]

Seems Legit.

[Trak Ratt]

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[BlackTalon]

:lol:

[que syrah syrah]

61901

I totally busted out laughing, thank you!

[Trak Ratt]

As part of my DE/racing support gear I bought a Shock Doctor unite. SD uses ozone to defunk helmets, gloves, suites and more. Ozone is is also recommended to clean CPAP machines, hoses and masks. Which because of my sleep apnea I use a CPAP rig every night. So I’ve been repurposing my SD to clean my CPAP gear too.

Fast forward to the current emergency and I find:
“Ozone gas has been proven to kill the SARS coronavirus and since the structure of the new 2019-nCoV coronavirus is almost identical to that of the SARS coronavirus, it is relatively safe to say that it will also work on the new coronavirus though it must be noted that there is no studies to date except one that is current ongoing n China at the Institute of Virology In Hubei with regards to this. Progress of that study has shown that it works and the study should be concluded by the end of this week and officially published in the journal Virology”

So now I’m going to use the SD to extend the life of the few masks, cloves and other gear I have.

And I know ozone gas is a carcinogen and bad for the ecology.

[Vicegrip]

Ground level O3 is not bad for the planet. O3 decomposes back into O2 or combines quickly
It leaves no residual other than the results of combining. It has been used for many years to kill virus, bacteria, mold and fungus. I have watched it eat through a car that was covered in fine white fuzz. It sat for a couple months with wet carpets and it was a hot mess. The O3 disintegrated the stuff. Was intending on making the car safe to clean and it surpassed expectations.
I have a 120 volt corona discharge type (fitting name no?) ozone generator. For this event I use it to clean the car and purchases. After shopping I place it in the car leaving everything other than frozen food in the car. Give it a couple hours then open the hatch and a door for a couple min. Done. No muss no fuss no missed contact point missed. You can smell ozone in very low concentrations. If you can’t smell it you are not being exposed. A walk in a forest exposes you to epa excess levels of ozone. It is that faint electric / fresh air smell.
Be careful of the units. They need to be able to make lots of O3. It dissipates quickly and you need to generate it at a rate that produces the proper concentrations. Many do not have the power to disinfect a car or room.
O3 eats stink too. Someone smoke, the carpets get wet or a mouse go tits up in your car? An hour or so and some of that with the HVAC running and gone.

[Trak Ratt]

The SDs have a heat option too. Which I only used in the summer months to quickly dry helmets, gloves etc. between runs We’ve also used the Shock Doctor to freshen old books and other items in storage to long. Actually quite handy for a number of things.

[spiffyjiff]

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[Trak Ratt]

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[Trak Ratt]

In a pinch your CPAP machine may save your life, again!

https://www.fiercebiotech.com/medtech/fda-authorizes-cpap-machines-more-as-emergency-ventilator-alternatives

But be careful if you are assisting someone else use their machine.

[Trak Ratt]

Here's what is open and closed in Virginia
Virginia has issued a stay-at-home order that will remain in effect until June 10.

Author: Jonathan Franklin (WUSA9), WUSA 9 Staff
Published: 6:29 PM EDT March 30, 2020
Updated: 6:30 PM EDT March 30, 2020
RICHMOND, Va. — Virginia Gov. Ralph Northam has issued a stay-at-home order to help slow the spread of coronavirus. The order would still allow for people to leave their homes for certain essential activities like shopping for food and seeking medical treatment.

The order will remain in effect until June 10, unless amended or rescinded before then.

Northam said if people are found in the state to have left their home for a non-essential reason or in a gathering of 10 or more, they may be subject to a class one misdemeanor, which carries the possibility of jail time up to 12 months and a fine of up to $2,500.

Northam also ordered all non-essential businesses to close until at least April 27.

Those with chronic health conditions or aged 65 or older should self-quarantine.

The following retail businesses are considered essential and may remain open during normal business hours:

Grocery stores
Pharmacies
Other retailers that sell food and beverage products or pharmacy products, including dollar stores, and department stores with grocery or pharmacy operations;
Medical, laboratory, and vision supply retailers;
Electronic retailers that sell or service cell phones, computers, tablets, and other communications technology;
Automotive parts, accessories, and tire retailers as well as automotive repair facilities;
Home improvement, hardware, building material, and building supply retailers;
Lawn and garden equipment retailers;
Beer, wine, and liquor stores;
Retail functions of gas stations and convenience stores;
Retail located within healthcare facilities;
Banks and other financial institutions with retail functions;
Pet stores and feed stores;
Printing and office supply stores; and
Laundromats and dry cleaners.
Here are the reasons you can leave your house, under Virginia's Stay-at-Home order:

Going to the grocery store to buy groceries or supplies for you and/or your household.
Engaging in activities that are essential for your health and safety of one's self, family, household members, pets, or livestock, including such things as seeking medical or behavioral health or emergency services, and obtaining medication or medical supplies.
Caring for a family member, friend, pet, or livestock in another household or location, including, transporting a family member, friend, pet, or livestock animal for essential health and safety activities and to obtain necessary supplies and services.
Traveling to and from an educational institution to receive meals or instructional materials for distance learning.
Engaging in outdoor exercises, such as walking, hiking, running, or biking while abiding by CDC social distancing guidelines.
Travel required by a law enforcement officer or court order.
Traveling to and from a federal, state, or local government building for a necessary purpose.

Here is a list of businesses that are considered non-essential and have been ordered to close:

Theaters, Performing arts centers
Concert venues
Museums
Other indoor entertainment centers
Fitness centers, Gyms, Recreation centers, Indoor sports facilities, indoor exercise facilities
Beauty salons
Barbershops
Spas, massage parlors, tanning salons
Tattoo shops
Any other location where personal care or personal grooming services are performed that would not allow compliance with social distancing guidelines to remain six feet apart;
Racetracks and historic horse racing facilities
Bowling alleys
Skating rinks
Arcades
Amusement parks
Trampoline parks
Fairs,
Arts and craft facilities,
Aquariums
Zoos
Escape rooms
Indoor shooting ranges
Public and private social clubs
All other places of indoor public amusement.

The following service businesses must close to the public, but can still offer delivery/takeout services:

Restaurants;
Dining establishments;
Food courts;
Farmers markets;
Breweries;
Microbreweries;
Distilleries;
Wineries; and
Tasting rooms.
Businesses in violation of this order may be charged with a Class 1 misdemeanor.

Each of these businesses must still adhere to social distancing guidelines of six feet of space with enhanced sanitizing practices on common surfaces.

Any other business not listed must limit all in-person shopping to no more than 10 people inside, adhere to social distancing guidelines with enhanced sanitizing practices. If the business cannot follow these guidelines, it must close.

Any business that violates this order may be charged with a Class 1 misdemeanor.

You can read the full executive order here.

[Patrick3000]

We paid the China Coronavirus premium and installed a Warrior IAQ system to help improve air quality in the crib.

Not a recommendation but you can’t be to careful in these times.

Be safe!

https://www.warrioriaq.com

https://i.ibb.co/Y2FGm8V/262-B253-C-9-BE2-4-A37-8-B80-74-A7771-F62-F5.jpg

[spiffyjiff]

no surprise the luxury car market also feeling the crunch. besides SUVs / "normal" vehicles in the article, also are a few supercar callouts (a couple of which i've never heard of...a 2000hp lotus??? :shock:)

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/the-year-s-hottest-new-cars-just-got-cold-as-ice-1.1416838

Spurred by a heady stock market, super expensive, super fast sports cars were enjoying a moment until March arrived. Porsche had big plans to roll out the 640-horsepower, muscle-y 911 Turbo S version of its franchise machine with group media drives. Instead, the company delivered the 640-horsepower machines one by one via fleet drivers prepped on disinfection and social distancing. Porsche’s German manufacturing plants in Zuffenhausen and Leipzig have been silent since March 21, and Porsche Experience Centers in L.A. and Atlanta, where the Porsche-curious take test drives and track lessons, sit empty.

The US$225,000 Ferrari Roma super car debuted in November in, of course, Rome. But a total Ferrari production halt on March 14 included production of the 611-horsepower, V8 Roma, which was supposed to roll into dealerships toward the end of the year. Ferrari hopes to eventually make up for the lost production with additional shifts. “No material impacts on deliveries and waiting list are foreseen at the moment,” a spokesperson says.

Over in England, the US$1.7 million McLaren Elva super car packs a punch: 804 horsepower on a V8 engine and rear-wheel drive. It’ll do zero to 124 mph in just 6.7 seconds, which makes it faster than its sibling, the track-suited Senna. McLaren had planned to build just 399 of them, each one customized through the company’s special-ops MSO division and delivered at the end of 2020.

“We will continue with all possible design and engineering activities that we can at this stage,” says Roger Ormisher, vice president of communications at McLaren. The carmaker will “then finalize physical development once staff are back at MTC, with the plan to deliver Elva into production as close as we can to Q4 2020.”

Finally, Lotus is trying to piece together its first new vehicle in more than a decade. The machine, dubbed Evija, is stunning—and costs US$2.1 million.

Shaped like a spaceship with trimmed sides and massive wheels, it boasts nearly 2,000 horsepower generated from four electric motors, as well as a zero-to-60 mph sprint of fewer than three seconds. Only 130 will be built by the legendary U.K. automaker. As for when they will be built, that will be determined later. Production has halted at Lotus’s Norwich headquarters while engineers continue tweaking designs from home.

“The vehicle development process is as it was—just not in the offices,” says Rob Borrett, a company spokesman. Super car architects, it turns out, are just like the rest of us. They Zoom.

[Patrick3000]

^^^ So my experience has been contrary to the experts. I sold the SC mid March and the 911-50 this month. The buyer for the C2S backed out of a full price offer and I decided to keep her because I’m not ready to let her go until I find a replacement.

IMHO people are bored surfing the net and buying good cars at very strong prices. Most dealerships are closed and I suspect that might all change when things start to open up. YMMV