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Jazzbass
05-05-2016, 07:47 PM
Finally putting the E46 final bits together. Trans is out so replacing the clutch. OE is LUK so I bought a LUK kit - pressure plate, clutch, and TOB. Pulled the bearing out and found this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JieSsa6RWS0

Not my video but am in the exact same position. The Sachs bearing that came out of the car (with god knows how many miles) looks like the Sachs bearing in the video, and likewise the brand new LUK baring looks like the one in the video.

Internet searching has found:

1. This seems to be normal for the LUK bearing - so it's not "defective", just a different design.
2. The LUK design is either:
a. better! The axial movement is there to compensate for misalignment with the pressure plate and keep the bearing surface mated properly.
b. worse! OMG look at how loose that is! the Sachs bearing isn't like that - WTF LUK?

:bang:

Thoughts?

Jazzbass
05-05-2016, 10:29 PM
Never mind, I found the answer. Updated design:

51372

Intubator
05-06-2016, 08:15 AM
Still seems unusual that the swivel motion would be to that degree on a part that moves on a guide tube and is intended to articulate with the fingers of the pressure plate at a 90 degree angle... My guess is that it is supposed to compensate for wear or weakening of individual fingers.

Goggles Paesano
05-06-2016, 11:16 AM
Still seems unusual that the swivel motion would be to that degree on a part that moves on a guide tube and is intended to articulate with the fingers of the pressure plate at a 90 degree angle... My guess is that it is supposed to compensate for wear or weakening of individual fingers.

Restate this in English please!;)

edevinney
05-06-2016, 11:34 AM
Restate this in English please!;)

Basically, the only new principle involvedbis that instead of the power being generated by the relaxive motion of conductors and fluxes, it is produced by the modial interactions of magneto-reluctance and capacitive directance.

Electrical engineers will appreciate the difficulty of nubbing together a
regurgitative purwell and a superaminative wennel-sprocket. Indeed, this proved
to be a stumbling block to further development until, in 1943, it was found that
the use of anhydrous nagling pins enabled a kyptonastic boiling shim to be
tankered.

The early attempts to construct a sufficiently robust spiral decommutator failed
largely because of lack of appreciation of the large quasi-pietic stresses in
the gremlin studs; the latter were specially designed to hold the roffit bars to
the spamshaft. When, however, it was discovered that wending could be prevented
by the simple addition of teeth to socket, almost perfect running was secured.

The operating point is maintained as near as possible to the HF rem peak by
constantly fromaging the bituminous spandrels. This is a distinct advance on
the standard nivelsheave in that no drammock oil is required after the phase
detractors have remissed.

BlackTalon
05-06-2016, 11:45 AM
I call BS...
The operating point is maintained as near as possible to the HF rem peak by constantly fromaging the bituminous spandrels. cheesing the spandrels like that would soften -- or even liquefy -- the bitumen, causing the spandrels to fail. You damn electrical peeps know little about materials science or structures...

edevinney
05-06-2016, 01:10 PM
Restate this in English please!;)

I call BS...
cheesing the spandrels like that would soften -- or even liquefy -- the bitumen, causing the spandrels to fail. You damn electrical peeps know little about materials science or structures...

Well it goes without saying that such a barescent skor motion requires the addition of a drawn reciprocating dingle arm to reduce sinusoidal depleneration.

Goggles Paesano
05-06-2016, 03:13 PM
Basically, the only new principle involvedbis that instead of the power being generated by the relaxive motion of conductors and fluxes, it is produced by the modial interactions of magneto-reluctance and capacitive directance.

Electrical engineers will appreciate the difficulty of nubbing together a
regurgitative purwell and a superaminative wennel-sprocket. Indeed, this proved
to be a stumbling block to further development until, in 1943, it was found that
the use of anhydrous nagling pins enabled a kyptonastic boiling shim to be
tankered.

The early attempts to construct a sufficiently robust spiral decommutator failed
largely because of lack of appreciation of the large quasi-pietic stresses in
the gremlin studs; the latter were specially designed to hold the roffit bars to
the spamshaft. When, however, it was discovered that wending could be prevented
by the simple addition of teeth to socket, almost perfect running was secured.

The operating point is maintained as near as possible to the HF rem peak by
constantly fromaging the bituminous spandrels. This is a distinct advance on
the standard nivelsheave in that no drammock oil is required after the phase
detractors have remissed.

Ditto!

Intubator
05-06-2016, 03:15 PM
Restate this in English please!;)

LOL!!... How about Baltimorese? Say man, so wha's happenin wit dis is da.....

Intubator
05-06-2016, 03:16 PM
Basically, the only new principle involvedbis that instead of the power being generated by the relaxive motion of conductors and fluxes, it is produced by the modial interactions of magneto-reluctance and capacitive directance.

Electrical engineers will appreciate the difficulty of nubbing together a
regurgitative purwell and a superaminative wennel-sprocket. Indeed, this proved
to be a stumbling block to further development until, in 1943, it was found that
the use of anhydrous nagling pins enabled a kyptonastic boiling shim to be
tankered.

The early attempts to construct a sufficiently robust spiral decommutator failed
largely because of lack of appreciation of the large quasi-pietic stresses in
the gremlin studs; the latter were specially designed to hold the roffit bars to
the spamshaft. When, however, it was discovered that wending could be prevented
by the simple addition of teeth to socket, almost perfect running was secured.

The operating point is maintained as near as possible to the HF rem peak by
constantly fromaging the bituminous spandrels. This is a distinct advance on
the standard nivelsheave in that no drammock oil is required after the phase
detractors have remissed.

This is exactly what I was trying to say in not so many words!

Vicegrip
05-06-2016, 03:28 PM
I call BS...
cheesing the spandrels like that would soften -- or even liquefy -- the bitumen, causing the spandrels to fail. You damn electrical peeps know little about materials science or structures...

I used to think this as well and for good reason but it works. Seems the spandrels are held in hysteresis flux via the inherent capxtacence. Rather gripping to see.