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SilverStreak
07-25-2011, 12:45 PM
I have to say, these were some of the most intense opening laps I've ever experienced. The start was crazy. I was hanging in there until I overdrove/heated the tires and slid wide in T2 and the group just drove away.
Fun weekend though!
http://vimeo.com/26865509
Were you on 888s and those other drivers on Hoosiers? You can't expect to keep up with otherwise similar cars with that kind of tire discrepancy. Were there other Spec Boxster's there with 888s, too? It didn't look like you messed Turn 2 up all that bad - not nearly as bad as the 968 messed up turn 9 (when he was just a hair too far ahead of you for the first time since the start!).
good hands
07-25-2011, 04:05 PM
Were you on 888s and those other drivers on Hoosiers? You can't expect to keep up with otherwise similar cars with that kind of tire discrepancy. Were there other Spec Boxster's there with 888s, too? .
Spec Boxsters run 888's. Everyone else out there is on Hoosiers.
Congrats on the 2nd place finish by the way.
Congrats on the 2nd place finish by the way.
How many in class?
SilverStreak
07-25-2011, 04:18 PM
Were you on 888s and those other drivers on Hoosiers? You can't expect to keep up with otherwise similar cars with that kind of tire discrepancy. Were there other Spec Boxster's there with 888s, too? It didn't look like you messed Turn 2 up all that bad - not nearly as bad as the 968 messed up turn 9 (when he was just a hair too far ahead of you for the first time since the start!).
Spec Boxsters run 888's. Everyone else out there is on Hoosiers.
Congrats on the 2nd place finish by the way.
Paul was the only other SPB. The 888's were surprisingly capable. Or there were a lot of lousey drovers on Hoos. There were very few cars in the back half that could gap us in the Octopus. SPB's are only 2650 pounds which probably made the difference. Paul ran the same size tire front and rear which was a better choice given that you seem to be turning all the time on Tbolt. I was running staggered and I cooked them trying to keep up. That little slide in T2 was all it took. I had to back off to stay on track and then I got thru the chicane too slow and they were able to get away. After that I was struggling to see times below 1:41. Paul's best times were about a second better than mine so I have work to do. Very fun car though!
Thanks for the kudos on my P2 finish (of two :D )
tdatk
07-25-2011, 04:40 PM
Paul was the only other SPB. The 888's were surprisingly capable. Or there were a lot of lousey drovers on Hoos. There were very few cars in the back half that could gap us in the Octopus. SPB's are only 2650 pounds which probably made the difference. Paul ran the same size tire front and rear which was a better choice given that you seem to be turning all the time on Tbolt. I was running staggered and I cooked them trying to keep up. That little slide in T2 was all it took. I had to back off to stay on track and then I got thru the chicane too slow and they were able to get away. After that I was struggling to see times below 1:41. Paul's best times were about a second better than mine so I have work to do. Very fun car though!
Thanks for the kudos on my P2 finish (of two :D )
Gotta love the odds of a podium there....;). Looked like a good time out there.
pjalexandre
07-25-2011, 05:05 PM
Dr K.. I am the silver boxster out in front of Hunt, I know I disappear from view sooo fast.
I'll tell you what. I was surprised by how well the spec boxster could hang with all that higher hp considering our hp disadvantage and toyo R888 handicap.
My battle was with the blue 968 firehawk car and a GTB2 997S. I got around both of them and somehow made up just enough of a gap each lap from T1-4 to keep them from a pass on the straight away. (thank goodness for the chicane).
Eventually on the last lap my tires were completely gone and I lost the back end over T4 and looped it and came back onto the track behind the GTB2 997s and the Blue 968 and finished there.
Wow, that start looked like total chaos. Congrats on P2:D
TurboPooch
07-25-2011, 11:44 PM
That was the wildest start I have ever encountered in a race. I was right behind Hunt and it seemed to take forever for the cars to string out. I would have some video to share but the idiot that I am got the memory cards mixed up and put the 8gb in the G2X and the 128k in the Chasecam. It filled up by the end of the pit lane....doh!
Thanks to Scott for the air conditioned hospitality suite...
Other than the heat (106 air temp, 115 heat index, 147 pavement) it was a good weekend. My son got to spend about 15 minutes talking to Leh Keen on Friday before all the fans got there.
good hands
07-26-2011, 07:58 AM
Steve, Robbie is maturing into a nice young man. He was very helpful last weekend and I enjoyed his company......even though my wallet is lighter :)
HoodPin
07-26-2011, 08:09 AM
Fun to watch videos! Kudos to the SpecBox boys! :D
hoophead
07-26-2011, 08:13 AM
Steve, Robbie is maturing into a nice young man. He was very helpful last weekend and I enjoyed his company......even though my wallet is lighter :)
x2 - hoping my son will be as helpful and mature in a few years.
SilverStreak
07-26-2011, 08:14 AM
Steve, Robbie was great to have around. His rates are good too :)
He got some great pictures as well!
TurboPooch
07-26-2011, 08:54 AM
Thanks guys. He (and I) really appreciate your company and your willingness to make him feel like part of the group. He loves cars and can't wait to participate, as a hobby or maybe his vocation. I just need to steer him in the direction. And yes, if anything else... the kid does have a career in sales!
pjalexandre
07-26-2011, 09:28 AM
Steve, great having your company for the weekend. Glad that your abs issues got sorted in time for you to enjoy Sunday. Thank Robbie for the great pics (in fact see the new avatar) :)
Carrera51
07-26-2011, 12:52 PM
"Were you on 888s and those other drivers on Hoosiers? You can't expect to keep up with otherwise similar cars with that kind of tire discrepancy."
Not necessarily the case. Look at the times that Charlie Boyer and a few other of the SPB guys laid down at the SP race last year. They were faster than many D and E 911s on Hoosiers (myself included).
LPM911
07-26-2011, 01:34 PM
Were you on 888s and those other drivers on Hoosiers? You can't expect to keep up with otherwise similar cars with that kind of tire discrepancy.
Not necessarily the case. Look at the times that Charlie Boyer and a few other of the SPB guys laid down at the SP race last year. They were faster than many D and E 911s on Hoosiers (myself included).
x2 to what mark said. at the level of racing we all participate in, the biggest discrepancy is driver skill. an overly prep'd car can only get you but so far.
N Fotouhi
07-26-2011, 03:19 PM
x2 to what mark said. at the level of racing we all participate in, the biggest discrepancy is driver skill. an overly prep'd car can only get you but so far.
Not necessarily the case. Look at the times that Charlie Boyer and a few other of the SPB guys laid down at the SP race last year. They were faster than many D and E 911s on Hoosiers (myself included).
Dr. K,
Don't listen to these guys, the only reason you are not fast is because you do not run sticker Hoo Hoos every session like the cheaters do and not because you suck. :lol::lol::lol:
but you have Dorki's collective admiration cause you are a DIYer.
}{arlequin
07-26-2011, 03:32 PM
Were you on 888s and those other drivers on Hoosiers? You can't expect to keep up with otherwise similar cars with that kind of tire discrepancy.
whoa slow down mario. I'm guessing you haven't had the pleasure of using two-weekends-past-the-due-date hoosiers vs fresh 888s yet.
also, red mist can overpower the stickiest of tires...
At the risk of pissing off yet another Dorki member/wannabe, FUALL! Of course, you're all correct (except Nadir - it is because I suck, but at least I know it). Frankly, }{, if I were going to run a support race at a well-attended event, I'd be embarrassed to run anything but sticker HoHos. Of course, I didn't sign up for the event because, with my (still improving) driving skills, I would have been embarrassed even if I were running sticker HoHos.
BTW, great videos, and it looks like you had a lot of fun!
Trak Ratt
07-26-2011, 07:01 PM
At the risk of pissing off yet another Dorki member/wannabe, FUALL! Of course, you're all correct (except Nadir - it is because I suck, but at least I know it). Frankly, }{, if I were going to run a support race at a well-attended event, I'd be embarrassed to run anything but sticker HoHos. Of course, I didn't sign up for the event because, with my (still improving) driving skills, I would have been embarrassed even if I were running sticker HoHos.
BTW, great videos, and it looks like you had a lot of fun!Seriously, you need to dial it back a little!!! That "Dorki member/wannabe" is a friend of mine too! Not everbody gets your free-for-all prose.
N Fotouhi
07-26-2011, 07:50 PM
At the risk of pissing off yet another Dorki member/wannabe, FUALL! Of course, you're all correct (except Nadir - it is because I suck, but at least I know it). Frankly, }{, if I were going to run a support race at a well-attended event, I'd be embarrassed to run anything but sticker HoHos. Of course, I didn't sign up for the event because, with my (still improving) driving skills, I would have been embarrassed even if I were running sticker HoHos.
BTW, great videos, and it looks like you had a lot of fun!
Am I a Dorki member or wannabe? How can I be incorrect when I am the only one who said you suck :?
pjalexandre
07-26-2011, 09:15 PM
I don't know about all this "I gotta have sticker tires or I don't even have a shot nonsense" I ran the NJMP Rolex weekend on 25 heat cycle Toyo R888s (on the front tires) and I still sacked up and took the turn after the bridge flat out driving over the curbing with all 4 wheels.
Anybody questioning the economics of Spec Boxster, this pair of tires were stickers for the Oct Club race last year, then used at Watkins Glen in May (all 3 days) and as rear tires for Hyperfest and the Fatt the day before. I still think they are good to go and will use them at NJMP PCA race in Aug. Now the question is will my engine last as long as my tires ;)
Am I a Dorki member or wannabe? How can I be incorrect when I am the only one who said you suck :?
No, you were incorrect because you said the reason I'm slow was not because I suck--as if there was another reason I'm slow... It certainly isn't the car!! :D
Plus, you're just wrong, anyway (like the Jewish husband in the forest--if his wife isn't around, he's still wrong). But you're FUN!
good hands
07-27-2011, 07:12 AM
I don't know about all this "I gotta have sticker tires or I don't even have a shot nonsense" I ran the NJMP Rolex weekend on 25 heat cycle Toyo R888s (on the front tires) and I still sacked up and took the turn after the bridge flat out driving over the curbing with all 4 wheels.
Anybody questioning the economics of Spec Boxster, this pair of tires were stickers for the Oct Club race last year, then used at Watkins Glen in May (all 3 days) and as rear tires for Hyperfest and the Fatt the day before. I still think they are good to go and will use them at NJMP PCA race in Aug. Now the question is will my engine last as long as my tires ;)
Yeah yeah yeah....My best was a 1:37 on Friday with 15 plus heat cycles Hoo's. First session Saturday with stickers 1:33. Stickers are confidence building, awe inspiring, and personally give me wood....:lol:
pjalexandre
07-27-2011, 09:29 AM
Dude, the wind blowing by gives you wood. :D
My best was 138.4 on that greasy ass track. You should have kept your old hohos on and I should have run stickers and we could have diced. ;)
Yeah yeah yeah....My best was a 1:37 on Friday with 15 plus heat cycles Hoo's. First session Saturday with stickers 1:33. Stickers are confidence building, awe inspiring, and personally give me wood....:lol:
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