996 Engine replacement update [Archive]

pjalexandre

09-20-2007, 10:09 AM

Hey everyone,

Sorry that I haven't posted in a while. You may recall that my 1999 996 developed an engine problem the last time that I ran Shenandoah. The diagnosis less than expertly performed guaranteed the need for an engine replacement (bank 1 Cam chain broken while car being test driven).

So I searched for a while for 3.4 replacement engines, rented cars in between biz trips (the 996 was my daily driver)... Almost purchased some engines with leads from some of you but unfortunately they didn't play out.

Also toyed with the idea of buying an engine and doing an engine drop party with a direct 3.4 swap but was concerned about my own abilities, my tools, my lack of lift, space, etc.

So where am I now.. I ended up buying another daily driver that can do light duty towing and not be too big to drive all the time; a 2004 Durango (the new body style) capable of between 5750 and 7250 lbs depending on use of Load Distrib hitch.

Michael (Savowood) referred me to Roock in atlanta and I started talking with Fabian Roock about putting in a 3.6 or 3.8 instead for nearly the same budget as just buying a 3.4 and doing a direct swap... Since his shop has done this before, this started to sound interesting so I signed up and told him to find me a 3.6L.

We looked and looked and nothing good was showing up and then all of a sudden I located a fresh 3.6L X51 engine. Needless to say after talking to Fabian about it, the engine was mine shortly after.

Hopefully this week my car will make it to Atlanta and Roock will start the process and in 2 weeks I'll get to fly down and drive my new car home. :) The car will get dynoed to get the tuning right and should hopefully do a little better than the factory # for the 3.6 with X51.

Stay tuned ! :) It is like Xmas for me and looking forward to getting my car back.

Unfortunately I will no longer have the bragging rights of having a Bone Stock 996 and turning respectable lap times. But it should be interesting.

I am afraid however that with a tow vehicle and a modified 996 that I am truly sliding if not tumbling down that slippery slope you all warned me about. :)

TD in DC

09-20-2007, 10:11 AM

Congrats! Now you will have the best of all worlds. The lightest non-e-gas 996 (does yours have LSD?) with the highest available stock n/a HP (non GT3 of course) available for the 996s.

pjalexandre

09-20-2007, 10:14 AM

TD,

Mine had a factory LSD and M030 suspension but has been swapped out with an 04 GT3 suspension which works extremely well. :)
Tks !

TD in DC

09-20-2007, 10:14 AM

TD,

Mine had a factory LSD and M030 suspension but has been swapped out with an 04 GT3 suspension which works extremely well. :)
Tks !

Paul,

I officially hate you. ;)

TD

Rick Lee

09-20-2007, 10:15 AM

So who's paying for all this? You or the shop that blew your engine?

}{arlequin

09-20-2007, 10:16 AM

what td said. w/ that car you will be able to embarass gt3 owners (the ones that don't know how to drive)

pjalexandre

09-20-2007, 10:16 AM

Me and my CFO are paying. I would have better luck claiming reparations then getting that shop to give me anything.

pjalexandre

09-20-2007, 10:21 AM

On the stock M030 and MPSC I was turning a 1:28-29 at Summit Main with Savowood in the car and that was leaving a little on the table in 3,4 and 9.

Never got to run it w/ the GT3 susp at Main but at Shen I dropped about 4 seconds down to a 1:40. Woulda really liked to see what it would turn at main with a stock engine and the susp. Not about to speculate at the moment but I can tell you that I am extremely anxious to get on the track this fall for those fast cool days ;)

TD in DC

09-20-2007, 10:29 AM

You will have to ease into a little since it you are so used to the car but the new motor should be significantly faster. I mean, that seems to be more "risky" than hopping into an entirely new car because your "I need to be careful" senses may be dulled by your familiarity with the car. I am sure all it will take is about a day at each track.

I just see so many guys move up in hp (e.g., from a 997 to a 997 GT3) and then promptly spin in T9 at Summit due to the extra hp and extra speed they can now carry through there.

Good problem to have.

Datax

09-20-2007, 12:08 PM

Sounds very exciting, Paul. Let's switch cars once it's done. :D J/K. Hopefully, I will be very much used to driving 911s by then.

Are you gonna wait till next season to go back to track or start sometime this winter?

MLIN

09-20-2007, 12:56 PM

Hey PJ, good to hear things are working out. Now, with a tow vehicle, you will need a trailer.

good hands

09-20-2007, 12:59 PM

3.6 ?? You are going to be smokin dude. Glad to see you getting it back together. Hope your kids can still go to college :lol:

pjalexandre

09-20-2007, 01:30 PM

State schools my friend. And they can take out loans too. ;)

3.6 ?? You are going to be smokin dude. Glad to see you getting it back together. Hope your kids can still go to college :lol:

savowood

09-20-2007, 02:01 PM

Just when I got my times down to 1:29 (on cooler days and 1:31 in the searing heat), I was just hanging on to Paul except for the straight at SPR. So I went and got Roock to put in a 3.4 and give me the extra juice I'd need to keep up with him (after blowing my motor at SC).

So of course, now Paul goes and pops his motor in the same place on SC just so he can get the X51 and be ahead of me again. I don't think I'll ever be able to keep up. :lol:

Seriously, if anyone can be effective keeping the power to the ground, Paul's the guy. I'm looking forward to comparing lap times. I'm thinking in the cool fall air, I should be able to get back to the base 1:29 times, then the 50% extra horsepower and PSS9 suspension will get me at least another half second. :roll:

Then of course, the extra 20% or so Paul's getting will be just enough to crush any hopes I had of overtaking him down the straight. That GT3 suspension will have him flying out of T10 at 95+. My previous best at the end of the candy stripe was 92, and he was doing that on a regular basis with the M030.

Next time I'm at the track, trying to chase him down... ---> :bang:

At least we'll have fun chasing down the GT3 and 'vette drivers. Trying to catch up with Paul is just a fleeting dream at this point. :D

-Michael

pjalexandre

09-20-2007, 02:07 PM

Holy shite, my head just exploded :)

BillJ

09-20-2007, 04:24 PM

So are you headed down to pick up the car on Petit weekend? I will be there with Roock to help you break in the new package if you like ;)

pjalexandre

09-20-2007, 08:06 PM

Petit weekend... hmmm, wouldn't that Rock with Roock ! :) Wait, that really was kinda Ghey. :vomit:

Hunter

09-21-2007, 09:27 AM

Paul I am glad to hear that things are now going your way. I met you breifly at an event earlier this year. Hopefully I did not hold you up on the track.

Not to hi-jack your thread but I am contimplating upgrading my suspenson from bone stock to possibly PSS9. Can anyone weigh in on a comparison wether they went to PSS9s or similar set up? You guys just mentioned exit speed at SP turn 10. That would be a good reference point for me if you will share.

Thanks and again sorry for the hijack.

TD in DC

09-21-2007, 09:32 AM

Although I no longer own a 996, I had a 996 with PSS9s. The PSS9 setup is NOT a track setup. It is much better than stock for street use, and it is good enough for the novice groups. However, if you are looking to upgrade your suspension for track use, don't even consider the PSS9s. I would look straight to Moton or JRZ. You don't necessarily have to go adjustable, but if you do, I would go straight to the triples. Do not mess around with interim upgrades because you probably will not be happy in the end and waste your money by doing later what you should have done in the first place. Better just to suck it up and do it right the first time.

Just my two cents.

pjalexandre

09-21-2007, 09:48 AM

Hey Ken,

I remember meeting you and noting that your car with the 3.6 had a little more pull..

my 2cents on 996 susp. Debated this for months. I have done a few suspension in my day. I wanted bang for buck and something that definitely worked on the track. Luckily for me my car came from factory with the US M030 so that bought me some time because it didn't suck so bad like the stock susp, but of course my next move had to be worth it and better.. That really ruled out the PSS9s for me.. Depending on how much you want to spend... I would think X74 but with GT3 sways instead of the M030 sways (about $2k maybe more with the Euro) or the next level up is a GT3 takeoff suspension (which I got) which could be easily under $1k if you can find one. These are good steps before sinking the huge $$$ to go to JRZ or Moton. I priced out JRZ and Moton's all well north of $3-4K just for the HW.

Now if your heart is set on turning it into a track beast with rollcage then yes jump to the JRZ/Motons and be done with it. But if you want an great inbetween car then my money would be with the GT3 susp or the X73/X74.

Also, not trying to sell my stuff but I have my complete M030 sitting in a box. It is definitely not hardcore but better than stock.

:-)

Hunter

09-21-2007, 09:50 AM

TD in DC

09-21-2007, 09:52 AM

Thanks TD.

I am just starting my thought process. Winter is coming soon.

Bilstein PSS9s are the most talked about (from what I have heard) but I have have recently heard some about Motion and JRZ. Regarding the 'track use' portion of your post is PSS9 maybe more popular to the 'I drive it on the street and do DE' crowd vs. the Motion/JRZ that the cars are trailored track only cars?

Feel free to PM me your telephone number and I will talk to you about PSS9s vs. moton/JRZ. As I said, PSS9s are a vast improvement over the stock suspension. However, for any track usage beyond green or blue group, it is my honest opinion that the PSS9s are inadequate. Even on the stiffest settings, the spring rates are too soft, and the shocks do not have a wide or progress enough range of settings.

They are good at what they are made for. They are not made for DE usage at the white or above level.

Datax

09-21-2007, 10:07 AM

I've been saving up for Motons since beginning of summer. Hopefully, by the end of the year, I could pull the trigger. Whether or not daily drivable or hardcore or not is depends on what kind of spring rates you choose. Good thing is that you can use those dampers for a long time even if you decide to upgrade your car to 997 or whatever, you can carry it over with different springs set up. They are very versatile.

My E46 M3 has PSS9s and it's okay. Like TD said, they are much better for street than track. Before I bought the car, I was researching about suspensions on Porsches and found same information as TD was mentioning here.

Hunter

09-21-2007, 10:20 AM

Thank you for your thoughts guys.

It looks like I need to do some home work.

savowood

09-21-2007, 11:09 AM

Ken,

If you're going to be at FATT next week, find me and I'll take you out for a few laps. You can decide whether or not you like the PSS9 from the passenger seat.

I know a lot of people here give a lot of crap to the PSS9, but it's really a good system. It's the only system allowed on the Spec Boxster series, and just like all the other systems, when set up properly and in the hands of a good driver, can help turn some really fast lap times.

I've had the PSS9 on my car for about a month now, and am still getting used to it. I had it on Shenandoah for about 5-6 laps (which Paul can help describe for you as he was either in front of me in his car or sitting in the passenger seat), and I had one autocross last weekend. It will take some getting used to, but I think I can find out where the edge lies on SPR. I know that course very well and have some reference points I'm used to using to see how I'm running.

For example, when the car was stock, I would consistently hit 87 at the end of the curbing on T10. I'd just peak over 100 through the chute, and the end of the straight, with my measly 217 HP I could get around 125 before braking for T1. I could hit third gear about 50 feet before the access road between T1 and T2. At least that's when the temperature was on the cool side. Subtract a few MPH when it's 90+ degrees.

I'm looking forward to FATT again next week as it will be the first real test of the Boxsera/Carrexster. I've run it lightly on SC and a little over full-tilt-boogie on an autocross. I think I have the balance, but we'll find out on SPR. That's the real litmus for me.

BTW, the NASA TTC National Championship runner up was in a Boxster with the PSS9. He beat the previous track record, but then ended up getting beat by a Neon driven by the National Director for NASA's TT program. He was able to get under 1:41 on Mid-Ohio. I don't know if you've been there, but that's fast for the Pro Course.

Seriously, come out to FATT (although it may be booked up solid) and I'll take you for a few laps. I may play with the damping between laps, but you'll get a good idea of what's going on.

-Michael

forklift

09-21-2007, 11:17 AM

Michael are those track out speeds from your speedo or from DAS? P speedos are sometimes about 10% high from what I have seen/read, including mine....so when mine says 100 it is actually 90. Just curious.

I went from the stock suspension on the RSA to PSS9s to JRZ doubles and although I can say the PSS9s were almost as good on bumpy Summit Point with their softer springs, the JRZs are a HUGE improvement at VIR (although the data is somewhat clouded by tires). I have a feeling if I had softer springs I would see more of an improvement at SPR and less so at VIR. I'll take the VIR improvements and just hope that SPR paves at some point.

}{arlequin

09-21-2007, 11:24 AM

But if you want an great inbetween car then my money would be with the GT3 susp or the X73/X74.
this is what i would go for unless i went w/ a custom. later it may be even easier to sell it off as well when compared to a used pss9 setup

pss9's really do suck for the track. great for sporty street ride. horribly undersprung for serious use.

even if you don't want to go w/ full moton/jrz etc, you could have a custom suspension made for a lot less then the full monty. find out the specs of a gt3rs/rsr etc suspension and then pick and choose your springs and have shocks valved to match.

Jazzbass

09-21-2007, 11:29 AM

Michael are those track out speeds from your speedo or from DAS? P speedos are sometimes about 10% high from what I have seen/read, including mine....so when mine says 100 it is actually 90. Just curious.
x2. I put a GPS in my car and finally figured out why, when doing "75" in a 65, I was getting passed left and right. Because "75" was actually 68. It's really deflating when you think you're hitting 135 down the back straight at VIR only to find out it's really only about 122. :cry:

forklift

09-21-2007, 11:38 AM

this is what i would go for unless i went w/ a custom. later it may be even easier to sell it off as well when compared to a used pss9 setup

pss9's really do suck for the track. great for sporty street ride. horribly undersprung for serious use.

even if you don't want to go w/ full moton/jrz etc, you could have a custom suspension made for a lot less then the full monty. find out the specs of a gt3rs/rsr etc suspension and then pick and choose your springs and have shocks valved to match.

I think this is good advice and let me also add to my last post that once/if I do get my new suspension dialed in at SPR in the current condition and my current spring rates then obviously it will be an improvement. Part of the problem is that the last two events I have been to SPR have been on older Hoosiers (15+ hcs) and it is impossible to dial in a suspension with fried tires. My BFGs only have 8 HCs and I do plan on going to the Nov Poto event and maybe the Seat Time before the club race. I also have some tread left on my RA-1s.

Anyway, I would not recommend PSS9s after my 2 1/2 years of use on the track (edit, not recommend PSS9s for serious track use, for single adj, I would look at the race JRZ SA, but still $$$$). The knobs are crap and after JRZs they now are remembered as "weak". I think would be ok for just a few track days a year (from a quality and speed standpoint), but I was doing 30.

Also, if you do buy doubles get ready for some frustration until you figure them out. Part of the reason I bought mine was to make me "listen" more to what the car is doing and to learn more about how suspensions work. It has worked and I now enjoy tinkering with them...but still have much to learn.

Still need a tow vehicle and trailer for those spring rates though....

Datax

09-21-2007, 11:58 AM

pjalexandre

09-21-2007, 12:25 PM

Ken,

Just remember to sell your susp to Harold after you upgrade :)

forklift

09-21-2007, 12:53 PM

Jim,
Where can I get and install JRZs around here? I'm having hard time choosing JRZ vs Motons. Only leaning towards Motons because I know a shop that can do some work on them. But, I heard JRZs can save me some $$$. At one point, I was just thinking of revalving my stock dampers like http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?p=4048345#post4048345 But, it would cost almost as much so I decided not to bother.

You're right about PSS9 knobs. After a year, all you could set is stiffest or the softest.

Ken,

I had mine installed at IMA in Fairfax. One of the reasons I went with JRZs is IMA (strongly) prefers these over Motons and they are my shop, so I went with their advice…and after a zillion searches on various forums. The searches came up with the perception that Motons last longer between rebuilds and have better customer service, but not sure how factual that is…..it might be, but so far I have been lucky enough not to find out. They have taken a beating on the PA turnpike on the way to MO and back as well as a few days at SPR and they still work great.

If I went to a different shop, I might have Motons on my car right now and would be just as happy, I’m sure.

I think the new spring option might be a good idea also and lot less expensive….just less/lack of adjustability, which can work for or against you.

There is a thread here w/ more info on all of this, just discussed: http://dorkiphus.net/porsche/showthread.php?t=14950

Hope that helps some.

Jim

P.S. I don't think the JRZs are going to save you any money if you go with the race shocks, not sure about the JRZ RS, which are street/track, but very good from what I have read.

Hunter

09-21-2007, 01:31 PM

forklift

09-21-2007, 01:45 PM

This is really turning into blondes v. brunettes v. redheads..

Lets try to coorlate the number of average track days to the type of suspension. Would the PSS9 drivers do less than Moton and Moton less than KW and JRZ the most days? Somewhere in there will be the stock guy (me). I only did 8-10 days with stock suspenson.

By the way thanks to all the responders and phone call.

Sorrry again to Paul for the hijack.

I started to write up a response, then recalled this rennlist thread where you might find some answers, or at least worth a read:

http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/showthread.php?t=361964&highlight=ready

Datax

09-21-2007, 02:03 PM

Ken,

I had mine installed at IMA in Fairfax. One of the reasons I went with JRZs is IMA (strongly) prefers these over Motons and they are my shop, so I went with their advice…and after a zillion searches on various forums. The searches came up with the perception that Motons last longer between rebuilds and have better customer service, but not sure how factual that is…..it might be, but so far I have been lucky enough not to find out. They have taken a beating on the PA turnpike on the way to MO and back as well as a few days at SPR and they still work great.

If I went to a different shop, I might have Motons on my car right now and would be just as happy, I’m sure.

I think the new spring option might be a good idea also and lot less expensive….just less/lack of adjustability, which can work for or against you.

There is a thread here w/ more info on all of this, just discussed: http://dorkiphus.net/porsche/showthread.php?t=14950

Hope that helps some.

Jim

P.S. I don't think the JRZs are going to save you any money if you go with the race shocks, not sure about the JRZ RS, which are street/track, but very good from what I have read.

Jim,

I was about to ask in my previous post whether you did everything at IMA. :D You're right, IMA is a hardcore JRZ fan. I once mistakenly mention Motons in the conversation with Ivan and the next hour, he was telling me the history of Motons (Company separated from JRZ) and how he doesn't like to buy parts from unfaithful people. :lol: Few weeks later, I asked Chris to look for prices for Motons and he never did and gave me JRZs instead. :p Yea, they are very religious about JRZ kits. Currently I have an option to buy a Moton CS kit (Not the serious Race Version) for low $3000 so it's very tempting.

Sorry Paul that I'm going little OT.

savowood

09-21-2007, 05:19 PM

Michael are those track out speeds from your speedo or from DAS? P speedos are sometimes about 10% high from what I have seen/read, including mine....so when mine says 100 it is actually 90. Just curious.

I literally just had my speedo checked a few hours ago. From what I've seen against the data loggers, and against my GPS, and what I confirmed today with the speedo calibration check, I'm exactly 2.6 MPH high on the digital and 1.4 high on the analog. The track out speeds I was giving were from the digital readout as that's the easiest one to get a glimpse of when I'm going that fast and really don't want to look anywhere but up the track. :shock:

I went from the stock suspension on the RSA to PSS9s to JRZ doubles and although I can say the PSS9s were almost as good on bumpy Summit Point with their softer springs, the JRZs are a HUGE improvement at VIR (although the data is somewhat clouded by tires). I have a feeling if I had softer springs I would see more of an improvement at SPR and less so at VIR. I'll take the VIR improvements and just hope that SPR paves at some point.

At some point, when I decide to have the Carrexster be track only, then I'll put the 450/500 springs in the PSS9. Until then, what I have is very nice and manageable on the street, and a lot of fun on the track. In a situation where I'll be driving the car a lot of the time on the DC area roads, stiffer springs will make my chiropractor extremely happy, but my girlfriend extremely unwilling to ride in the Porsche. :|

To get back to the original point of the tangent on the thread, the PSS9 isn't as bad as most people would want you to believe. You'll spend less money, have more enjoyment in more places, and still be 99% as fast, and if you're a better driver, even faster. But then again, there's no first place at DE events, so what does it matter? It's a well tested and very much proven suspension setup. You won't go wrong with it at all. You might actually end up learning how to drive with it. :lol:

-Michael

KFJ

09-21-2007, 05:55 PM

But then again, there's no first place at DE events, so what does it matter?

WHAT?? When did this happen? I keep seeing the checkered flag every time indicating that I've won and Rob is 5x (or is it 6, I can't keep track) champion! Screw it then, I'm buying a 944. :)

Trak Ratt

09-21-2007, 06:01 PM

WHAT?? When did this happen? I keep seeing the checkered flag every time indicating that I've won and Rob is 5x (or is it 6, I can't keep track) champion! Screw it then, I'm buying a 944. :)
Yeah I see that too… then a minute or so later Hunt goes by :p

Toby

09-21-2007, 06:34 PM

BTW, the NASA TTC National Championship runner up was in a Boxster with the PSS9. He beat the previous track record, but then ended up getting beat by a Neon driven by the National Director for NASA's TT program. He was able to get under 1:41 on Mid-Ohio. I don't know if you've been there, but that's fast for the Pro Course.

He did not do this completely by choice, though. He class does not allow remote reservoir, and he tried but couldn't order Ledas or figure out how to get the clearance for Ohlin in time. (He interned at Ohlin.)

Also he went with race springs instead of the stock PSS9 springs.

Toby

09-21-2007, 06:39 PM

Jim,

I was about to ask in my previous post whether you did everything at IMA. :D You're right, IMA is a hardcore JRZ fan. I once mistakenly mention Motons in the conversation with Ivan and the next hour, he was telling me the history of Motons (Company separated from JRZ) and how he doesn't like to buy parts from unfaithful people. :lol: Few weeks later, I asked Chris to look for prices for Motons and he never did and gave me JRZs instead. :p Yea, they are very religious about JRZ kits. Currently I have an option to buy a Moton CS kit (Not the serious Race Version) for low $3000 so it's very tempting.

Sorry Paul that I'm going little OT.

I remember Ivan was much more neutral when I asked him about Moton vs JRZ :). They have installed quite a few kits brought in by customers, but I don't think they sell them there.

Are the Club Sports new? $3000 is a great price. Get it!

Toby

09-21-2007, 06:48 PM

P.S. I don't think the JRZs are going to save you any money if you go with the race shocks, not sure about the JRZ RS, which are street/track, but very good from what I have read.

Are you referring to shock overhaul? My JRZ RS (also called Clubsport :?) are supposed to be low maintenance.

I believe yours are more comparable to Moton Motorsport. Not sure if they are as low maintenance as their Clubsport.

forklift

09-21-2007, 08:30 PM

I literally just had my speedo checked a few hours ago. From what I've seen against the data loggers, and against my GPS, and what I confirmed today with the speedo calibration check, I'm exactly 2.6 MPH high on the digital and 1.4 high on the analog. The track out speeds I was giving were from the digital readout as that's the easiest one to get a glimpse of when I'm going that fast and really don't want to look anywhere but up the track.

Sounds good, then you are hauling very well through the chute. Btw, my speedo is only off 2.6 mph at around 26 mph, so it might depend on how fast the car was going when you tested, but I'm not sure how that works. Since mine is off around 10% it is only off a few mph going slow, but reads around 145-147 at the end of the straight at SPR and GPS says 132-134. On my 1:24:5 lap in March my (actual) max speed in the chute was 96.28 max and top speed on the straight was 134.0. I did see 99.2 in the chute on an earlier lap.

Are you going to the Seat Time before the Club Race? I am hoping to attend, I think I have 2 FATT credits right now. Not sure yet.

forklift

09-21-2007, 08:39 PM

Are you referring to shock overhaul? My JRZ RS (also called Clubsport :?) are supposed to be low maintenance.

I believe yours are more comparable to Moton Motorsport. Not sure if they are as low maintenance as their Clubsport.

Hey, I don't know a lot about them, just what I read here
http://www.jrzusa.net/products/ and on a few forums. Hopefully they are low maintenance. For the price on any JRZ one would hope that any model is (LM). Looks like they raised the prices this year, ouch! http://www.jrzusa.net/prices/jrz_prices.pdf

I think Greg Fishman had to rebuild his JRZs after a year, but I have read from others that they are 2+ years and ok. Prack assured me that I could get 2 years and I hope he is right!

Please let me know how your understeer problem works out, I am curious about that.

Landjet

09-22-2007, 11:42 AM

TPC sells and installs JRZ's.

Datax

09-22-2007, 01:12 PM

Are the Club Sports new? $3000 is a great price. Get it!

Yup, brand new Motons CS with racer discount (that was what they say even though I'm not a racer). $31xx to be exact. Dying to get it but since October is coming and I gotta pay for property tax for cars (Stupid VA), I've been cautious about not to spend so much money.

Dr K

09-23-2007, 09:37 AM

I literally just had my speedo checked a few hours ago. From what I've seen against the data loggers, and against my GPS, and what I confirmed today with the speedo calibration check, I'm exactly 2.6 MPH high on the digital and 1.4 high on the analog.
I agree with Jim. The speeds are generally off by a percentage. I've checked mine against GPS at multiple speeds, and it's always off by 9%. So if it says 60, I'm going about 55, and if it says 100, I'm doing 91. When it says 135 at the end of the back straight at VIR, it means 123. But you know what, I don't have any less fun... :D

I gotta pay for property tax for cars (Stupid VA), I've been cautious about not to spend so much money.
More and more Dorkis are living in beautiful downtown MARYLAND! Join Chris, Pari, Bill M, me, and a host of others and cross that silly river! :p

Peter

BillJ

09-23-2007, 10:01 AM

This is starting to become the biggest multiple off topic thread ever. Went from motor replacement to suspension upgrade to speedometer calibration!

Trak Ratt

09-23-2007, 10:09 AM

:? I’m looking for new street brake pads for the Focus. Anyone have a recommendation? :lol:

Rob in VA

09-23-2007, 10:30 PM

Yup, brand new Motons CS with racer discount (that was what they say even though I'm not a racer). $31xx to be exact. Dying to get it but since October is coming and I gotta pay for property tax for cars (Stupid VA), I've been cautious about not to spend so much money.

More and more Dorkis are living in beautiful downtown MARYLAND! Join Chris, Pari, Bill M, me, and a host of others and cross that silly river! :p

Peter

Anyone want a GT3 titled in their lovely state of Maryland? ;)

Noah

09-23-2007, 10:43 PM

Dude, title it in VT. You can use my mom's address. Registration is $35 per year.

Rob in VA

09-23-2007, 11:04 PM

Dude, title it in VT. You can use my mom's address. Registration is $35 per year.
That would mean I would have to rock VT plates, yes?

Dr K

09-24-2007, 12:08 AM

Anyone want a GT3 titled in their lovely state of Maryland? ;)Not only can you title it here, you can even park it in my nice, warm, dry garage! Just leave the keys "in case there's a fire or something." :D

Peter

Rob in VA

09-24-2007, 06:46 AM

Not only can you title it here, you can even park it in my nice, warm, dry garage! Just leave the keys "in case there's a fire or something." :D

Peter
Sure. I'll also leave some oil filters and brake fluid with the car too. Just change the oil and flush the brakes every other week. :)

Trak Ratt

09-24-2007, 07:21 AM

That would mean I would have to rock VT plates, yes?Please say you aren’t a lawyer?

pjalexandre

09-24-2007, 09:31 AM

Air Fresheners; Pine or New Car scent?:lol:

Alan Herod

09-24-2007, 11:38 AM

FWIW - TPC is the US importer distributer for JRZ and Brian is a JRZ engineer. When I searched for replacement/rebuild of the H&R set-up on Sally's car, I found TPC at the begining of the food chain again. Any of the local shops willing to support you at the track and familiar with modern car set-up could do great work on your car. This is really important when you are trying to set-up your gas-cannister-quadrouple-adjustable shocks, combined with adjustable sway bars. Look around the paddock, you will routinely see, Ivan, Mike Levitas, Jeff and Ray, Bob Miller and his crew and others supporting their customers.